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This is real freedom right there for the elderly. According to the CBO, headed by a republican, a 64-year old has to pay $14 600 for insurance under Trumpcare. Today, he or she pays $1700 on average. The young healthy generations are compelled to subsidize the elderly under the current mandate system. Thats what insurance is. The healthy subsidize the sick. Just like the drivers with no accidents subsidize the ones who do get into accidents.
Trumpcare would devastate rural, elderly America. Thats freedom right there.
Freedom is an interesting word people may use to describe Trump Care, but freedom "from" Health Care is not freedom at all. Universally, everyone on the planet gets sick and needs medical care. Due to different circumstances (one big one--having a pre-existing and another one, age) some people, many will not be able to afford Trump Care like they did w/ Obama Care. Freedom to get sick and die. I wouldn't call that freedom personally.
No it will never work and everyone knows it. The cost of intensive care is often several hundred thousand dollars. And permanent disability often the result. Paid for by everyone.
Thats why only anti-social darwinians support such a thing. They dont think things through and are fueled by rage and not reason.
But, typically when something happens to this type of person, they cry the loudest and claim the most benefits that they can. I've seen this a lot.
But, typically when something happens to this type of person, they cry the loudest and claim the most benefits that they can. I've seen this a lot.
I know several of these types too. On disability, but cry about all social safety nets and how its stealing from them. When pointed out they receive disability which is a form of social safety net the typical response is "well I earned mine"
I know several of these types too. On disability, but cry about all social safety nets and how its stealing from them. When pointed out they receive disability which is a form of social safety net the typical response is "well I earned mine"
Funny, I know only one person on disability and he doesn't like Trump. In fact, he texted today "We should have a revote to get trump out. Ha ha"
The entire concept of insurance in healthcare needs to be abolished. Period. A massive for profit industry like that involved in the delivery of care not only tacks on unnecessary billions in costs, it is a complete conflict of interest.
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If they can't pay, then they will need to find a hospital or doctor to volunteer to help them. But absolutely no do the taxpayers get a bill.
Hospitals are a business and being a doctor is a profession, everyone is in the business of making money. If I have a loss in my business I don't get to send the bill to the taxpayer to reimburse me.
Any doctor who would refuse to operate on someone who couldn't pay would not only be violating the Hippocratic Oath, but would also be a very evil soulless person.
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Yeah.
I walk by homeless people all the time knowing they will die, a situation I live with just fine.
Somewhere in the world, there are millions of kids dying of malnutrition, a situation I live with just fine.
I made peace that I'm here on this rock for myself and my family.
Wow, you sound very, well I don't even know what word to use without it becoming a personal attack. Let's just say that this is the definition of sociopathy
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