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The Plan is not complete yet boys and girls. This bill will be bounce back for refinements. I do not what numbers the CBO was calculating , but those numbers seem to be way off. ACA cost way hire with a 5k deductible.
Exactly.
No one knows the numbers. I am beginning to believe they just pulled it out their arse.
I'm scratching my head at the amount of people who blindly swallow anything hook, line and sinker without even questioning the basis of such claims.
3 plans believers, are you thinking this through? If the Republicans can get Dems to go along with Phase 2 and Phase 3, then why not do it now? Why wait and put old people through untold misery? The fact is there is going to be one phase and that phase is going to be a disaster of epic proportions if forced through as a budget reconciliation.
This is real freedom right there for the elderly. According to the CBO, headed by a republican, a 64-year old has to pay $14 600 for insurance under Trumpcare. Today, he or she pays $1700 on average. The young healthy generations are compelled to subsidize the elderly under the current mandate system. Thats what insurance is. The healthy subsidize the sick. Just like the drivers with no accidents subsidize the ones who do get into accidents.
Trumpcare would devastate rural, elderly America. Thats freedom right there.
Roughly what someone at that age pays NOW under the ACA if they are making 50,000. In other words the subsidy is gone?
The subsidy is gone, the limit on how high premiums can go for people over 50 is gone, and the premium is much higher. So NO, not what someone at that age pays NOW. It's much more.
Basically people over 50 but under 67 are going to get hammered under the new plan.
Tell them to go get a Trump job when they come back and do away with the freebies and costs will come down.. the takers who grew this past 8 Obama years including millions of illegals made the medical costs go through the roof for all Americans. Go to the root of the problem. Freebies.
Why does it even apply in an emergency? Is the doctor a slave? Is by learning this specific skill-set, he's now a slave to help everyone before him on the verge of death?
Please.
This is the problem with people. They begin to take generosity for granted and begin to feel they're entitled.
No one is entitled to live, in fact we all die. Every second on this earth is a luxury not your right.
If the doc is working a shift in a Medicare participating ER, it is the law.
If the doc is a passer by, it is simply their ordained duty. But one he or she can legally shirk.
Put yourself in a doctor's shoes, someone comes up to you, with say a big laceration in their arm, bleeding everywhere and in pain and needs immediate medical attention, but doesn't have insurance or any savings. You are telling me that you as a doctor would just smile at them and tell them sorry, and watch them bleed to death right in front of you?!?!?
Not a legal duty unless in a Medicare approved ER.
Otherwise the doc can pass and choose to not be a Good Samaritan.
Other points - the doc may not have the training or expertise. I once came across a M/C - car accident and the first doc on the scene was a psychiatrist. He did not shirk, but had no knowledge or skills. Another potential point is the doc may be sick, overworked or too mentally upset to render care. Back in the '80's when I was the only medical specialist in town, on ER call 24/7, there were times when I reached my limit and couldn't participate with emergency care.
You think any public insurance program will cover a million dollar procedure? Don't make me laugh.
Of course it will, if medically necessary. This is part of Obamacare and/or EMTALA.
With our recent near fatal head on crash 1/1, no one asked us about insurance until, best as I can recall, day 2. By then my wife had already received way more than $100K in medical/surgical care. No questions asked.
Of course it will, if medically necessary. This is part of Obamacare and/or EMTALA.
With our recent near fatal head on crash 1/1, no one asked us about insurance until, best as I can recall, day 2. By then my wife had already received way more than $100K in medical/surgical care. No questions asked.
I hope you realize the distinction between an expensive medical procedure performed by experts necessary to save someone's life, and just ordinary ER work meant to stabilize who ever comes in the ER.
The first is not covered by any public insurance program - you get the garden of the mill coverage, anything special you're SOL or the very least need to pay for it.
One basic consideration is almost all of us will require sooner or later some complicated and expensive healthcare. Why do we need private insurance companies to manage the collection of money from the healthy and the payments to the providers? The managerial overhead and huge executive salaries, as well as the return on investment for the owners, seems to be the most expensive way to fund and manage a health care system. The Federal government manages both social Security and Medicare at far lower administrative costs.
Instead of either the ACA or whatever the Republicans are trying to create and sell to the foolish I suggest that health care providers be paid from an expansion of the existing Medicare system. This system could be funded by a simple tax on All Income from All Sources, including criminal, with a single deductible placed at the 90th percentile. The tax rate on the top 10% would be set to cover the expected costs for the next fiscal year. The System would be authorized to negotiate all prices for fees, services, salaries, and pharmaceuticals with the providers. Monopoly drug pricing would not be allowed.
There is a plan for the elimination and replacement of Obamacare.
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