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Old 03-15-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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May I ask the question:


Are the coverages the same?
It was based on 9 years from now and a $13,600 loss of subsidy.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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People only like the subsidies they get.

Collectively, young people hate being forced to buy health insurance which subsidizes the elderly but want free college subsidized by the elderly. Farmers are often Republicans who hate subsidies except farm supports.
An excellent observation, and I agree.
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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Trumpcare? Trump hasn't made a proposal.

It's Ryancare.
LOL ........ Trump said it's a "Wonderful" health plan proposal. Don't run away from it now.

Aptly named: DonTcare.
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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bogus fake thread.
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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To me it sounds like blackmail.

It reminds me of the homeless people who first beg and then curse when you waive them away. So much entitlement, and this is why I hate to give my tax dollars because you people are truly not grateful, you feel entitled.
Blackmail - lol. Just pointing out what is apt to happen if Trump turns on his base and those states turn blue again. Dems want single payer.
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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Nah, the bald truth is that all of these hysterical, emotional appeals get to the point of making folks tone deaf. Just can't hear it anymore. The CBO is so wrong on so much, it hardly bears paying attention.

Go back to projecting presidential election result with the quasi-facts and statistics. You were more successful with that.
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The thing is, the baby boomers are a massive demographic that's going to be needing healthcare, and who are going to be priced out of healthcare.

The legislation has to be about cutting costs off at the knees. Either insurance companies and the healthcare industry are going to take a massive hit, or we're talking about leaving an entire generation to die.

That's the bald truth.
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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A CBO analysis on anything is about as reliable as a diagnosis of death from a hang nail.
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No, you should read the CBO report. Its all there. The elderly will see their premiums skyrocket under Trumpcare. CBO is even headed by a republican! This pig stinks even with lipstick!
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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This is real freedom right there for the elderly. According to the CBO, headed by a republican, a 64-year old has to pay $14 600 for insurance under Trumpcare. Today, he or she pays $1700 on average. The young healthy generations are compelled to subsidize the elderly under the current mandate system. Thats what insurance is. The healthy subsidize the sick. Just like the drivers with no accidents subsidize the ones who do get into accidents.

Trumpcare would devastate rural, elderly America. Thats freedom right there.

There is no way the CBO, republican or democrat, or anyone else, can know this. The 2017 insurance plans haven't even been written yet, let alone priced and negotiated with the states.

Health insurance works on an annual schedule. The carriers decide which markets they want to pursue during January and February. The plans are written by the end of April and priced. Then the carriers roll the plans out to the states in May. They negotiate the policy price and benefits throughout the summer. The plans are agreed to generally by Labor Day, printed up and rolled out to the big employers and unions in the fall. Then they are made public around the first of November. So anyone who tells you they know what is going to happen before Labor Day is full of baloney. (And they have to be pretty well connected to know what it's going to be in September, too.)

What is known is that under Obamacare, 21 counties in Tennessee will have no carrier at all. Humana has already announced it is pulling out of the state and it was the only insurer for about one fifth of the state. Other Obamacare carriers have not announced where they will market their plans next year. So in terms of devastating rural, elderly America, what about all the rural elderly people in those Tennessee counties...?
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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So 64-year-olds who can't get insurance is a situation you can live with?
they're all free marketers/Ayn Randians until it happens to them- then suddenly it's different b/c they've "earned it" somehow....
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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bogus fake thread.
is this real? or did I miss the parody here? Just because you don't like something or it doesn't support your view doesn't mean it's bogus or fake...you're aware of this right???
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