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Why is everyone's panties being tied into knots? The Senate has already said they don't like this bill and will propose something different. Get over it. ObamaCare is dead and something else will take it's place. We still don't know what that something else is. Let's wait and see before we start committing suicide.
Ocare lives as long as it isn't repealed or replaced by a bill that passes both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President. There's no indication as of yet that the Senate will pass anything remotely close to the Freedom Caucus favored bill passed the House. If the Senate version passes, if it passes, it will have to be reconciled with the House version.
It's probably more likely that the House and Senate will stalemate rather than agree. While Ocare is in trouble in some areas of the country due to dropping providers, it's still likely to remain the law for the foreseeable future.
What we really need to do is kick the insurance companies to the curb and implement single payer, like the rest of the developed world, but we don't have the political will for that.
Bad deal is more like it. Taxpayer money going to insurance companies. Insurance companies getting the fines. Federal subsidies, 300-400 billion dollars in the bill going towards insurance companies profit.
This is exactly what both parties should be addressing, administrative costs, prescriptions, controlling costs. Instead here we are playing politics with peoples lives, no one should be treating health care as a game.
Yeah, all of we progressives are cheering for this. 42 pages of progressives cheering.
217 Conservatives in the House say otherwise. 42 pages of Conservatives cheering on this thread say otherwise.
The funny thing is I don't even find this bill to be particularly conservative. Somewhere along the way "repealing Obamacare" became a means unto itself instead of finding a more conservative solution to fixing our healthcare system.
Interesting.
Democrats claim the Republicans haven't had time to read it. But somehow, all the Democrats claim to know what's in it. Yeah! They know all about it!!
Dems are really good at disagreeing and saying no to things, and have a great future in the role of opposition party
Ocare lives as long as it isn't repealed or replaced by a bill that passes both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President. There's no indication as of yet that the Senate will pass anything remotely close to the Freedom Caucus favored bill passed the House. If the Senate version passes, if it passes, it will have to be reconciled with the House version.
It's probably more likely that the House and Senate will stalemate rather than agree. While Ocare is in trouble in some areas of the country due to dropping providers, it's still likely to remain the law for the foreseeable future.
What we really need to do is kick the insurance companies to the curb and implement single payer, like the rest of the developed world, but we don't have the political will for that.
I would like to see the Senate Democrats propose it. They need to go on record supporting single payer. Let the GOP shoot it down on record as well.
Interesting.
Democrats claim the Republicans haven't had time to read it. But somehow, all the Democrats claim to know what's in it. Yeah! They know all about it!!
you do understand it is ONLINE .
I suggest you consider that many posters here might have put in more time and effort than your Rep. sadly many members of gov are not really that interested in voting based on the quality of the bill, they just want to vote Party line while covering their butts..
Interesting.
Democrats claim the Republicans haven't had time to read it. But somehow, all the Democrats claim to know what's in it. Yeah! They know all about it!!
Thats because we haventhad time to either, but what we know of it based from statements by those onservatives is nightmarish.
Once we CAN read it all I am sure the additional details will be just awesome.
And look at you, somehow proud of the ignorance of the people voting for it.
Additionally..lets put it this way as a example. Lets say page one says "Everyone will be put in a pit with a hungry leopard", and is followed by 50 pages of pit specifications, all designed to lock people in, I don't think we absolutely have to read all 50 of the additional pages.
This is exactly what both parties should be addressing, administrative costs, prescriptions, controlling costs. Instead here we are playing politics with peoples lives, no one should be treating health care as a game.
Controlling costs. Joining a buying group like AARP which can be used for getting people into group rates. Pre existing conditions, with a group market you are protected.
Go read just the index
Some are conservative ideas that don't surprise, but actually DO doom the ACA. Once passed the ACA will crash, and get this-the dems will let the republicans eat that in the face. Republicans wll OWN it, and discover that owning something the other party hates sucks pretty bad.
And they have done NOTHING to encourage bipartisanship.
But some? Some are out and out designed to hurt folks simply to cut spending in order to give a bigger tax break to the wealthy.
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