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Old 05-04-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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There were major problems with the ACA. Republicans made zero efforts to address the problems. Just their inane chant of "repeal it".

I hope everyone that cheers this legislation suffers in the most horrible ways possible.
What about those who passed a law with major problems?
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:49 PM
 
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China is waiting in the wings. With its low birth rate, they will need to start empire building.
Certainly they have their shot coming up, but again, not exactly benevolent.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:50 PM
 
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If someone in their own family falls deathly ill and they can't do squat about it due to this plan, then we'll see the wailng and gnashing of teeth.
Yeah, lets see how being told a family illness is their own fault holds up for these folks so happy to cheer others into an early grave.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:50 PM
 
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You can not be serious.

By any measure this is no plan except a tax break for the wealthy and mayhem for the people.
Do you even know what is in the final plan? Your response suggest not.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:56 PM
 
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What about those who passed a law with major problems?
One can argue that most passed laws have problems. Most of the ACA's had to do with compromises made. The Democrats and Obama were too eager to roll over, and Republicans were too eager to gut anything and everything Democrats came up with. Either way, the ACA's issues could've easily been fixed had there been a Congress willing to do the work. They weren't, and instead spent the better part of a decade merely trying to get rid of it. Now that the GOP has total control, we're seeing just how awful they really are, because they spent all of that time complaining and didn't bother to try to come up with something actually decent and didn't screw over millions of people. Their behavior today was disgusting. Celebrating a win for the sake of winning, regardless of the consequences, is just about the least amount of class this group of people have ever had, and they were already some of the worst people in America.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:56 PM
 
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I ask this of not only you, OP, but ALL who are rejoicing at the idea of others suffering.
Exactly why are you so happy? Exactly how will this improve your existence??
Or are you one of those who derives pleasure in the misery, suffering, angst of those who dare think different from you, and therefore deserving of as much suffering as possible?
I'm actually genuinely curious as to how precisely your life will be improved? Do you instantly become rich, famous or good looking? Do you suddenly become a world class athlete?
If it takes THIS to make your life better and to make you truly happier, well, that alone speaks loudly.
I ask only because whether that Bill passed or not, exactly how does that change who and What you are? Either way you're still stuck with you after all is said and done.
Thank you, why they are so self centered and purely Evil is a sad thing in America.

Evil = profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful, void of compassion, disregarding of empathy, vile and trecherous

These sick minded people aspire the the Confederacy Ideals and the Antebellum system.... and most of them have no idea they are nothing more to the wealthy system of greed than a member of the service class; their indenture has made them become lustful, vain and haughty...and they have fiction that the wealthy will give them something, they are an abomination to the Lord. They are like the leeches they speak of, when to the wealthy they are nothing more than disposable, and replaceable service minions. They are wrapped within Living with a voided spirit, caught in desperation, until they devastated even more themselves in their aims to deprive others.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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We have had all that under Obamacare. And now its in a death spiral with rising costs and insurance companies abandoning it. The left is in denial that anything is even wrong with ACA.

We tried Obamacare. It failed. Lets see if the GOP can do better. Thanks to Obamacare they have a very low bar for achievement.
Bingo. Dems pushed their failure through. It is in its death spiral, with AETNA ready to bail next per press reports. We have nowhere to go but up.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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One can argue that most passed laws have problems.
The claim was "major" problems.

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Most of the ACA's had to do with compromises made. The Democrats and Obama were too eager to roll over, and Republicans were too eager to gut anything and everything Democrats came up with. Either way, the ACA's issues could've easily been fixed had there been a Congress willing to do the work. They weren't, and instead spent the better part of a decade merely trying to get rid of it. Now that the GOP has total control, we're seeing just how awful they really are, because they spent all of that time complaining and didn't bother to try to come up with something actually decent and didn't screw over millions of people. Their behavior today was disgusting. Celebrating a win for the sake of winning, regardless of the consequences, is just about the least amount of class this group of people have ever had, and they were already some of the worst people in America.
I'm not here to defend them.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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What about those who passed a law with major problems?
ACA was a step in the right direction. Definitely flawed but still gets us a step closer to Universal Health Care. You can't always get everything right in the first try. I am pretty sure this bill will die in the senate but if it were to make it through, we will take a step back.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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The claim was "major" problems.

I'm not here to defend them.
Even major problems can be fixed, so there really isn't an excuse. If the GOP had really wanted to, they could've fixed them. They could've put people and the country first. Say what you will about the Democrats and their own problems (and they have plenty), but the GOP is a train wreck of immorality, ignorance and faux patriotism.
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