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Old 07-01-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/u...rty-plans.html

I didn't even know he was HUD secretary under trump. Just heard something on the news about
HUD buildings being sold off to developers, for trump's world. Who else's benefit? Something like that.

Anyone add to this.

Trump is more a scumbag than ever. This is still so hard to believe.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:17 PM
 
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People making a comfortable living on the tax payers' dime have no incentive to improve themselves and find a job. Seriously. If people have the choice to go to a job everyday, or never have to work again, and have the same lifestyle in both cases, which do you think they'll choose?
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:31 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I don't think subsidized housing should be that fancy, just adequate. If it's housing for the elderly, that's different because they have worked and are now retired. If an elderly person needs subsidized housing, it's usually because of an illness that prevented them from working enough, a divorce too late in their working life for them to be able to earn the money back, or some misfortune such as theft or other occurrence that wasn't their fault. They deserve to enjoy their retirement in decent--maybe not extra fancy--but decent housing.

But for younger people who are on welfare, it should be just adequate. No washers and dryers or dishwashers in the apartments, just a safe and fairly comfortable place to live until they can get a job and get out. If they're able bodied and working age, they shouldn't have to be there for very long.

That said, the whole welfare system needs reforming so that people can transition off welfare, not just start working at an entry level job that would cause them to lose their housing and health insurance. It needs to be gradual. Let some financial assistance continue until they are on their feet and making enough money to support their family. Don't cut them off suddenly or else there is no incentive to even get a job.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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Sounds right to me. What's wrong with it?
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:44 PM
 
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I am all for it. In fact, pull out those FEMA trailers that are sitting unused and paid for so people can have a temporary place to live. More incentive to get on with your own life. The taxpayers don't need to provide TVs.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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It's not fancy, but livable..more comfortable than the streets.

Everyone says get a job, like jobs are a dime a dozen. College grads have tough times
snagging jobs.

Suppose they could line up for the ag fields like the migrant workers do..but it's hard to live on that living too. Plus americans don't want to pick lettuce and tomatoes.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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this is a trick statement, what carson say was : dont make government provided housing too comfortable for the poor. he was the poor to better themselves and move on, instead of being the stray dog that you feed and hangs around all day
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It's not fancy, but livable..more comfortable than the streets.

Everyone says get a job, like jobs are a dime a dozen. College grads have tough times
snagging jobs.

Suppose they could line up for the ag fields like the migrant workers do..but it's hard to live on that living too. Plus americans don't want to pick lettuce and tomatoes.

If you don't have skills to do anything else, then you can't afford to be picky about what you don't want to do.

I agree with him - I just think we need to do something to get these people to a place where they're employable.

But keeping people unskilled and on welfare is guaranteeing them a life of poverty.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:56 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Damn, some of those government homes are nicer than mine.

...and I'm a millionaire who has never been on welfare and who pays more in taxes every year than most people make .
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:02 PM
 
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Poor people shouldn't live lavishly. What's the issue here?
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