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Comey has been known as "The Fixer" since Whitewater.
Comey’s involvement protecting Hillary goes back to the mid-1990s and Whitewater, when Comey served as a special counsel to the Senate Whitewater Committee.
We now know from the 246 pages of previously undisclosed internal memos released by Judicial Watch from Ken Starr’s Office of Independent Council investigation in 1998 that DOJ prosecutors had evidence that Hillary Clinton and her associate Webb Hubbell at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Arkansas, were guilty of criminal fraud in the Whitewater affair.
From 1987 to 1993, Comey, working in the U.S. Attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York, served as the DOJ prosecutor who oversaw the prosecution of Marc Rich, the billionaire oil trader convicted of tax fraud and trading with Iran during the embassy hostage crisis.
But in 2001, when Bill Clinton decided on his last day in office to pardon Marc Rich, Comey oversaw the criminal investigation, but decided there was no wrongdoing on Bill Clinton’s part, “despite public outcry over the evidence that Rich’s ex-wife had donated to Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign.”
in 2004, Comey, then serving as a deputy attorney general in the Justice Department, limited the criminal investigation of Sandy Berger so as to protect anyone in the former Clinton administration who may have coordinated with Berger in his removal and destruction of classified records from the National Archives.The documents Berger purloined from the Archives in his socks are believed to have contained incriminating evidence linking the Clinton administration to the terrorist build-up in the United States that culminated in the 9/11 terrorist attack.
All the proof 9/11 was an inside Deepstate mission to derail Bush. Comey helped hide that.
The same thing they are doing with Trump. Watch for a massive False Flag to steer the dog.....
Mark my word.
Exactly. How can folks claim Trump is "vindicated" on one hand (which he 100% is not, nothing was said that should have led any critically thinking person to that conclusion) but then claim there's a HUGE problem with Lynch?
Either what Lynch did is wrong--and what Trump did is FAR worse; or if what Trump said is fine, then what Lynch said is no big deal at all.
But my expections are surely too high. Trump--and apparently many of his supporters--have zero integrity.
It is political plain and simple. I don't like the Lynch thing but know too little about it. Hillary's e-mails I don't like the how and the why the server was used but we all know she wasn't the only one to do so. There's even reports of Trump allegedly using one. Trump's issues however are troubling to Democracy if he fired the FBI director for the reasons he has double downed on, to end "This Russah thing."
I know how to differentiate between the important and the mundane, and what's important to get upset over. If I were a Trump hater, I'd go with your obsession over the mundane.
However, I can see where a guy new to politics, never expecting to win the election, could be awed by the size of the crowd such as he'd never had before. A big deal for him. Not such a big deal for many of us.
What IS a big deal is that he WON.
I'm not a big fan of his person, but I do think he could do a good job for the country and the people if allowed to focus on it.
Whether it rained, or how big the crowd was, or why it was smaller than others in previous years...I don't care.
What I do care about is the lies from the left, the mainstream media, the fabricated scandals that are thrown out there for public consumption -- all of which interfere with the business of the country.
So now you've lowered the bar so much that it's now OK for the president to tell little lies.
You can't start with the "new guy to politics" line because Trump is a deal maker. He's going to clean up the swamp. Only he can fix it.
Nobody is stopping Trump from focusing on his job. No one is making him watch the daily political talk shows every day. No one is making him tweet. He is doing this all by himself. He says things and creates his own controversies.
You should care about Trump's little lies. They have been a hallmark in his "career" all his life. If you lived in the NYC area during the from now back to the 1980's, Trump's shtick is not new. He lied all the time when it was to make himself look good. This is his "go to" move. Which is why he is constantly bringing up his electoral victory. He's desperately trying to prove he's legitimate, and he'll attack anyone or anything that threatens that in his mind. That is what makes him dangerous. He takes this course no matter what, which is what we are seeing now.
These are not lies. Republicans control both houses of Congress, and yet here we are with multiple investigations and a special prosecutor. It's not a Democratic excuse because they lost the election. That's Trump's excuse to question an investigation that threatens his legitimacy. Remember, this "Russian thing" started last summer, way before the election.
What makes this so asinine is comey can't figure out whether trump had intent so he leaked documents but he determined that Hillary had no intent and told the world after she:
Destroyed 33,000 emails on a government server
Said server was in a bathroom closet
She destroyed her phone(s) with a hammer
Etc etc
Anyone that doesn't see through this is a nitwit.. 80% of the Obama Administration needs to go to prison.
Why cannot the right get anything right? She deleted 33,000 emails on her private server. She claimed they were all personal but a small percentage were not. She turned 30,000 emails back to the state dept. She claimed they were not classified. None with a classified heading were found. Three that are claimed to have been incorrectly marked had a confidential section. A small number that other agencies claimed discussed classified matters were uncovered. None were actual documents that had been classified. Clinton was a classification authority. Anything coming out of the State Dept was classified as she desired.
The language is identical, so obviously it came from the memo(s). The only people aware of these memo's and probably also where they are filed in the FBI are per Comey's testimony, the number two/three guys at the FBI, their and Comey's chief of staffs and a couple of lawyers.
Do you seriously think whichever of these guys took the info to the NY Times (assuming Comey himself didn't) did not either receive direction from Comey after he was fired, or did not contact Comey themselves to get his blessing? That's naïve.
Heck they probably all discussed it as he cleared out his desk.
And seriously, if they felt it put the investigation in jeopardy for agents to know about these convos between Comey and the Pres at the time they happened, what changed? Makes no sense.
This is all about Comey being PO'd that Trump criticized him and made statements about FBI morale being bad under Comey. Comey as much as said this in his testimony and called these statements lies. If that was his big concern, why didn't he just get the FBI to release their employee satisfaction survey. No need for all this other drama.
Trump was right about one thing. Comey is a grandstander and a showboat and likes the spotlight WAY too much to be an FBI Director.
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Why should Comey stand for the POTUS calling him a nut-job. You would think Trump had better things to do. Trump [icked a fight and Comey defended himself which is his right. I find it hilarious people bashing comey and giving Trump a pass. Trump drew first blood in the media. The bully got smacked.
Comey is the very definition of a nutjob lol. According to his testimony 2 administrations of different parties no less tried to corrupt him and obstruct justice.
And yet, as one of the top LEO in the country, he did nothing except write memo's to the file.
HELLO?..........nutjob. And, lets not forget he was "confused" by it all and his excuse for doing nothing was he was "stunned".
Meanwhile, his main concern is whether or not the FBI agents loved him or not.
And, he has no understanding of why he was fired, despite the fact he testified he understood he served at the pleasure of the president.
Hey, Comey, you displeased the president .........that's why you were fired.
No understanding that he owed the country to tell them their president was not under investigation rather than letting that damaging narrative play out in the press day after day. Sickening how he put himself ahead of his country.
All the proof 9/11 was an inside Deepstate mission to derail Bush. Comey helped hide that.
The same thing they are doing with Trump. Watch for a massive False Flag to steer the dog.....
Mark my word.
Boy, the 911 stuff sure makes your case for being a reasonable and thoughtful poster making a rational case for Trump
Problem is, Comey testified Thursday that he did not discuss the Trump conversations outside of the FBI prior to giving the memo to a friend.
Right. So either Comey leaked for the first NY Times article or he has set 6 or 7 of his buddies still in the top echelon of the FBI including the current Acting Director as the leakers. Nice guy lol.
Comey did not like Trump and did not "feel" comfortable around him which is not uncommon with a new boss. His other bosses left him alone and he "felt" good about them. Every time something squirrely occurred he was shocked or taken back and did not address the issues at that time or do his job properly. This was with Trump, Clinton and Lynch.
He documented every thing tied to his dealings with Trump because Trump is a wild card and had a history of doing off the way crazy things. He documented meetings with Trump because he "felt" that Trump would lie.
With a 30+ year job history in the FBI you would assume he had better cognitive and leadership skills.
Oh, Comey got a good read on how amoral, corrupt and crooked Trump was when they first met prior to inauguration to discuss the Russian dossier. Comey wanted to keep his job and tried to avoid confronting Trump - so he took the wussy way out. I agree with Susan Collins - Comey should have upfront in that first meeting on Flynn after inauguration told Trump, "Mr. President, we can't be having this conversation. You don't want to be having this conversation. If you have concerns, have your WH counsel call the Justice Dept." He didn't do this - hoping maybe he could finesse his way out of the issue and Trump would leave him alone.
From his very first meeting after inauguration, certainly the second, Comey should have stood up to Trump, assuming he'd be fired - and planned accordingly. I believe Comey 100%, but think less of him for the way he handled this.
He might even still have his job had he talked straight to Trump immediately.
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Trump handled the Comey firing so badly by publicly humiliating him and making comments about Comey to the media. Trump was using one excuse after another as to why he fired him and made the entire situation more hostile than it needed to be. Comey was out to polish and cleanup his reputation and make sure everyone knew the inner workings of his relationship with Trump.
When you fire someone especially with 30 years of experience you handle it with respect and dignity. As a boss you keep your mouth shut and do not spout off to other people why the person is gone.
I see both Comey and Trump incorporating unnecessary drama in order to make the other one look worse.
Well, no one injected the drama except Trump. Comey finding out about his firing on TV, Trump calling Comey a showboat and grandstander, crazy and a nutjob???
So, who started it??
TRUMP DID. This is ALL on Trump. Every single mess Trump has now is one TRUMP began.
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Got it? Turn it all over.
Proof, not BS.
Turn over what to whom? Evidence collected by the FBI is being turned over to the Special Counsel. Is it your position the public should see it first? This serves no one well. In the end, SC may say no criminality and all the dirt has been unnecessarily exposed to be rehashed and argued about. This doesn't serve Trump well if, in the end, no laws were broken.
That he's a liar and cheat - well, we all know that already. The nitty gritty of the dirt - that might be unnecessary defamation - although, imo, there is no way to humiliate Trump. He is essentially shameless - any more dirt will just provide him another excuse to tweet more lies at 6 a.m.
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Why should Comey stand for the POTUS calling him a nut-job. You would think Trump had better things to do. Trump picked a fight and Comey defended himself which is his right. I find it hilarious people bashing comey and giving Trump a pass. Trump drew first blood in the media. The bully got smacked.
Oh, I agree. Trump's behavior is despicable. But, Trump is despicable, has been his entire life, so expecting better than despicable is a fool's errand.
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Problem is, Comey testified Thursday that he did not discuss the Trump conversations outside of the FBI prior to giving the memo to a friend.
This is true. While at the FBI, he told his FBI associates. Once fired, he gave the memo to a friend. There is nothing contradictory in that statement at all.
Look people, Trump is a lying thug. He has a history of lying and bullying his entire life. The truth, law, ethics - none of this means anything to him - never have, not his entire life. He has absolutely no moral compass. For those who never read this, you should:
He will testify under oath when he releases his tax returns - in other words - NEVER.
And - tell the truth under oath??? Also, NEVER. The man is not capable of truth ever.
Anyone here who believes Comey is lying about anything really needs to get back on their meds. Comey would never risk lying under oath. Never. Unlike Trump, Comey values his reputation and can be publicly shamed because he has a conscience and a moral compass.
Trump has no conscience, no regard for the truth or his reputation other than as a lying thug you better be afraid of, so Trump lies as easily as he breathes. He says F*U* to the world every minute of every day and doesn't care who he hurts.
With Trump - the only thing we can be sure of as night follows day is that every other word coming from Trump's mouth is a lie - always has been, always will be.
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And anyone who thinks Comey is 100% truthful needs to go back to Critical Thinking 101.
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