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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Was this the same doofas who was nicknamed the gentle giant" The same one who was out spreading the word of Jesus Christ" when he was killed for no supposed reason by a racist cop? That one?
That's the boy standing up bold face lying to the cameras saying' he was on his knees with his hands up when the white police officer shot him in the face....Yah, That one.

 
Old 10-03-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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Rosa Parks was a real victim. Colin Kaepernick is not.

Back then, there were both systematic and customary practices of prejudice against blacks and other minorities. Today there are none.

When the injuries are real, you have justifications to take even extreme measures. The only 'injuries' Kaepernick suffers are his body and his ego from playing football, and mostly against other blacks.
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Ferguson’s own data establish clear racial disparities that adversely impact
African Americans. The evidence shows that discriminatory intent is part of the reason for these
disparities. Over time, Ferguson’s police and municipal court practices have sown deep mistrust
between parts of the community and the police department, undermining law enforcement
legitimacy among African Americans in particular.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...ent_report.pdf


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Today, we announce the outcome of the Department of Justice’s investigation of the
Baltimore City Police Department (BPD).1 After engaging in a thorough investigation, initiated at
the request of the City of Baltimore and BPD, the Department of Justice concludes that there is
reasonable cause to believe that BPD engages in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the
Constitution or federal law. BPD engages in a pattern or practice of:
(1) making unconstitutional stops, searches, and arrests;
(2) using enforcement strategies that produce severe and unjustified disparities in the rates of
stops, searches and arrests of African Americans;
(3) using excessive force; and
(4) retaliating against people engaging in constitutionally-protected expression
https://www.justice.gov/crt/file/883296/download
 
Old 10-03-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Originally Posted by Roderic View Post
Rosa Parks was a real victim. Colin Kaepernick is not.

Back then, there were both systematic and customary practices of prejudice against blacks and other minorities. Today there are none.

When the injuries are real, you have justifications to take even extreme measures. The only 'injuries' Kaepernick suffers are his body and his ego from playing football, and mostly against other blacks.
There still is but it is much better than it was in the time of MLK and Parks. Now it isn't arrested for using the white sections but rather for simply being black when there is a profile for a black person. A 5'2" black teenage female was stopped for "looking like a near 6-foot black male" in Bakersfield, CA. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usato...ory/474909001/
 
Old 10-03-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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There still is but it is much better than it was in the time of MLK and Parks. Now it isn't arrested for using the white sections but rather for simply being black when there is a profile for a black person. A 5'2" black teenage female was stopped for "looking like a near 6-foot black male" in Bakersfield, CA. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usato...ory/474909001/
"Never mind that, can we focus on the real issue here. Some people knelt instead of stood for the National Anthem" - dumb people
 
Old 10-03-2017, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Most vets are astute enough to know they're protesting cops killing unarmed black guys, they're not protesting the flag. That's a false narrative that some on the right perpetuate because they know how black people are treated better than black people do themselves.
What narrative? There is no narrative, the ones protesting are ACTUALLY NOT RESPECTING THE FLAG, this is as objective and unambiguous as you can get. You are supposed to stand if able while the anthem is playing, to willfully do otherwise is clear cut disrespecting the flag and country. Whatever the people are protesting is completely lost by such an egregious act and actually sets whatever cause they think they are promoting back substantially
 
Old 10-03-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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What narrative? There is no narrative, the ones protesting are ACTUALLY NOT RESPECTING THE FLAG, this is as objective and unambiguous as you can get. You are supposed to stand if able while the anthem is playing, to willfully do otherwise is clear cut disrespecting the flag and country. Whatever the people are protesting is completely lost by such an egregious act and actually sets whatever cause they think they are promoting back substantially
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"Never mind that, can we focus on the real issue here. Some people knelt instead of stood for the National Anthem" - dumb people
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: New York City
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"Never mind that, can we focus on the real issue here. Some people knelt instead of stood for the National Anthem" - dumb people
No one will even LOOK at the issue when you spit on the flag. Symbols are important, especially in the United States. It's what we stand for in unity for a common goal. When you break that unity you are doing much more than lowering yourself two feet. The fact that this needs to be explained to hundreds of thousands of social justice warriors is extremely troubling for the future of our country
 
Old 10-03-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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No one will even LOOK at the issue when you spit on the flag. Symbols are important, especially in the United States. It's what we stand for in unity for a common goal. When you break that unity you are doing much more than lowering yourself two feet. The fact that this needs to be explained to hundreds of thousands of social justice warriors is extremely troubling for the future of our country
The issue is police brutality. Yall wouldn't even address it before the kneeling. We can't even address it here on a political forum without it turning to "black on black crime" or "BLM". Just admit you and your type never want to discuss that issue. Stop hiding behind the strawman argument about a piece of cloth.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 02:32 PM
 
Location: New York City
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The issue is police brutality. Yall wouldn't even address it before the kneeling. We can't even address it here on a political forum without it turning to "black on black crime" or "BLM". Just admit you and your type never want to discuss that issue. Stop hiding behind the strawman argument about a piece of cloth.
I have no problem discussing the issue, lost in all this is what exactly are you trying to get out of the protest.

No more police?
 
Old 10-03-2017, 02:35 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by 8won6 View Post
The issue is police brutality. Yall wouldn't even address it before the kneeling. We can't even address it here on a political forum without it turning to "black on black crime" or "BLM". Just admit you and your type never want to discuss that issue. Stop hiding behind the strawman argument about a piece of cloth.
I'm confused. Do police act in a brutal manner at football games?
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