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They don't. They say it doesn't exist in the context of closing the border, temporary travel bans and illegal immigration.
It's not racism, it's following the law and trying to keep the citizens safe from people who wish to us harm.
What a concept huh!
The key word is "exclusive"...affirmative action was never EXCLUSIVE to blacks. People of ALL RACES benefitted from it. Including whites. By your logic, you should be against any effort to make America environmentality greener because it might help some blacks. And you are wrong that "Affirmative Action was implemented to help blacks."
White men did not benefit from it, they were hurt by it. By your insane logic everyone gained. That's impossible.
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From the National Conference of State Legislatures:
In institutions of higher education, affirmative action refers to admission policies that provide equal access to education for those groups that have been historically excluded or underrepresented, such as women and minorities.
Not equal access. Quotas.
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Poor white males even fall into this.
No they don't.
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There is nothing about EXCLUSIVITY to black anywhere in affirmative action.
Affirmative actions does not benefit whites males. No one is saying EXCLUSIVELY but you. Weak deflection.
The CONTEXT that you choose to ignore is that none of those groups arrived in the US the same way blacks did.
Your CONTEXT is garbage. You made that up. Having a 70% rate of single parenthood has nothing to do with something that happened 150 years ago. Explain why that rate is going up for all groups but much higher for blacks. In 1960 the rate was 22%. Is it because we are many times more prejudice as a species than we were 50 years ago? Is that why single parent exists in such a greater degree? Explain that CONTEXT. Or continue to ignore and deflect.
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And none of those groups have had the exact same collective experiences as blacks. CONTEXT. The fact that yall see this really clear cut issue with context, and STILL just tap-dance around it is amazing.
Your CONTEXT is vapid. It has no MEANING. The fact that yall see this really clear cut issue without the proper CONTEXT, and STILL just tap-dance around it is amazing.
Easy enough. Single parenthood. Close to 70% of black households are of single parents. For hispanics it's ~40%, for whites ~25%, for asians ~15%.
We know if someone finishes high school, works a fulltime job, and waits until they are 21 to marry and have kids their sucess rate of getting to the middle class jumps to 75 percent.
The aim of the exercise is to remove racial inferiority from the analysis. Hence, if you are claiming that its a high rate of single family households, what is the origin of the higher rate between blacks and whites? In other words, explain the differential without assuming something different in the nature of blacks vs the nature of whites. For example, to assume that its because blacks embraced liberalism produces the implicit corollary that whites were smart enough not to. Why would whites be smart enough not to if we are assuming equal intelligence?
The aim of the exercise is to remove racial inferiority from the analysis. Hence, if you are claiming that its a high rate of single family households, what is the origin of the higher rate between blacks and whites?
It isn't racism and it isn't racial inferiority. And it's not an exercise. Make something else up.
It's an absurd thread that says conservatives deny racism.
Hundreds of years? Your inability to locate the cause of problems is mind boggling.
Yes hundreds of years of American history. You can't combat any argument about context so nowyou're trying to haggle the start time of when you can leave stuff out. Some of the tactics yall use are so easy to spot it's hilarious.
Like I said in the thread earlier. You want to start history at 1970 so that your flawed logic can barely get off the ground.
And to address " locate the cause of problems "...white supremacy. The root cause of majority of black problems in America. Those of us with a basic working knowledge history and the concept of "cause & effect" will likely conclude that systems like Slavery and Jim Crow are the root causes for many problems for blacks.
Your CONTEXT is garbage. You made that up. Having a 70% rate of single parenthood has nothing to do with something that happened 150 years ago. Explain why that rate is going up for all groups but much higher for blacks. In 1960 the rate was 22%. Is it because we are many times more prejudice as a species than we were 50 years ago? Is that why single parent exists in such a greater degree? Explain that CONTEXT. Or continue to ignore and deflect.
Your CONTEXT is vapid. It has no MEANING. The fact that yall see this really clear cut issue without the proper CONTEXT, and STILL just tap-dance around it is amazing.
Just cause you say "Context" doesn't mean you're using context.
i'll play along cuz I got a little time.
-the war on drugs which primarily targeted black drug users drastically increased the incarceration rates for black males. More black males in prison=more single parent households...cycles. Notice how when whites are currently going through an opioid crisis the issue of drug usage is being treated like a rehab issue, not a criminal issue. All of a sudden certain states are decriminalizing drugs when whites have a major issue with them.
The aim of the exercise is to remove racial inferiority from the analysis. Hence, if you are claiming that its a high rate of single family households, what is the origin of the higher rate between blacks and whites? In other words, explain the differential without assuming something different in the nature of blacks vs the nature of whites. For example, to assume that its because blacks embraced liberalism produces the implicit corollary that whites were smart enough not to. Why would whites be smart enough not to if we are assuming equal intelligence?
Why don't you explain the difference. And explain to me how being or not a single parent has to do with intelligence?
Just cause you say "Context" doesn't mean you're using context.
i'll play along cuz I got a little time.
-the war on drugs which primarily targeted black drug users drastically increased the incarceration rates for black males. More black males in prison=more single parent households...cycles. Notice how when whites are currently going through an opioid crisis the issue of drug usage is being treated like a rehab issue, not a criminal issue. All of a sudden certain states are decriminalizing drugs when whites have a major issue with them.
So had the drug users not been arrested and convicted they would have stayed in the home parenting responsibly? And provided a stable environment for their offspring?
Just cause you say "Context" doesn't mean you're using context.
i'll play along cuz I got a little time.
-the war on drugs which primarily targeted black drug users drastically increased the incarceration rates for black males. More black males in prison=more single parent households...cycles. Notice how when whites are currently going through an opioid crisis the issue of drug usage is being treated like a rehab issue, not a criminal issue. All of a sudden certain states are decriminalizing drugs when whites have a major issue with them.
Single parenthood among blacks rose from 22% to 31% from 1960 to 1968. No war on drugs then. That started around 1971 and we saw the first significant bump in the incarceration rate starting in 1976.
The bolded part you made up too.
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