Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 10-20-2017, 09:39 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
23,646 posts, read 12,561,414 times
Reputation: 10508

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Yes, of course according to Trump. Too bad he didn't even know the name of the soldier or his wife. How would you feel if your loved one died in combat and the president referred to him as your guy....no name. Why bother calling at all. It was pretty insensitive.
No, according to me. Obviously you failed to read the post I had quoted, or to watch the video that was included in that post. It was from a woman who'd lost her husband to the war earlier this year. She'd taped her conversation with Trump when he'd called her and put the tape out there as an example of how Trump handled his call with her.

 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:02 PM
 
51,655 posts, read 25,843,388 times
Reputation: 37895
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Yes correct this wife wasn't.

But there is another wife who was fine with it. So whats a President to do?

Just curious what is the correct way for the President to speak of the deceased soldier? What should he call him?
His name.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:03 PM
 
26,580 posts, read 14,458,253 times
Reputation: 7444
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
What should he call him?
his name.

if true it shows a complete incompetence in preparation for such a sensitive task.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:03 PM
 
13,388 posts, read 6,446,248 times
Reputation: 10022
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
His name.
Which name. His first name or his last name?
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:15 PM
 
51,655 posts, read 25,843,388 times
Reputation: 37895
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Which name. His first name or his last name?
Next time you brief Trump on calling families raw with grief, discourage him from doing it all.

If he insists, encourage him to use his/her rank and last name.

"Sgt. Johnson," for example.

Calling him "La David" is presumptuous and weird. Trump doesn't know him from Adam's off ox.

But then, you know all this, right?
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:15 PM
 
26,580 posts, read 14,458,253 times
Reputation: 7444
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Which name. His first name or his last name?
first name or last with rank.

this is an absolute minimum to show the widow you have some idea of who you are speaking of.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:21 PM
 
4,344 posts, read 5,800,783 times
Reputation: 2466
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
his name.

if true it shows a complete incompetence in preparation for such a sensitive task.
God forbid I ever have to bury my husband because he is KIA, I would be ok with "your husband". Trump does not know him personally so I would not be ok with him using his first name nor would I want him referenced as his rank and last name. I don't call him by his rank at home.
He's referred to me as "your husband" quite a bit lol!
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:26 PM
 
26,580 posts, read 14,458,253 times
Reputation: 7444
the WH now states that there is no transcript of the call which begs the question of what lara trump was talking about this morning:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ob-tw-enus-702
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:27 PM
 
13,388 posts, read 6,446,248 times
Reputation: 10022
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Next time you brief Trump on calling families raw with grief, discourage him from doing it all.

If he insists, encourage him to use his/her rank and last name.

"Sgt. Johnson," for example.

Calling him "La David" is presumptuous and weird. Trump doesn't know him from Adam's off ox.

But then, you know all this, right?
You think calling him Sgt Johnson to his widow is compassionate?

I think its overly formal and distant.

At the same time I realize we could quiz 10 people and get 10 different answers.

Personally, I would rather hear your husband or even Trumps version...your guy.

Bottom line, there is no right answer since we no longer live in a world were people value rules of manners and etiquette which would dictate the form of address. That being said, the only social contract we live with is the intent of the person who is sending the message.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:32 PM
 
26,580 posts, read 14,458,253 times
Reputation: 7444
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
.... we no longer live in a world were people value rules of manners and etiquette which would dictate the form of address.
i'm actually curious if there is military protocol for how to refer to a fallen soldier in such calls/letters.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:38 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top