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Old 01-15-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Actually the 4 way stop has been conquered by self driving cars a year or so ago. They understand hand gestures and facial recognition. One chinese company just went even further. These cars will be mass produced in 2019.

https://www.dezeen.com/2018/01/09/by...rols-ces-2018/

https://www.recode.net/2016/7/5/1210...signals-report

Once all cars are autonomous they can communicate with each other cutting down on potential issues. They are proposing a self driving traffic lane in Wisconsin:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/14/...onsin-highway/
Since you mention a Chinese company, car makers basically have to localize their cars for each country, I suppose, due to differing customs and rules.
Plus, facial recognition is not so reliable on black faces, I heard.
I think any self-driving car would be overwhelmed in a place like Lagos, Nigeria, lots of black faces, wild gestures, chaotic driving and pedestrians crossing the street anywhere
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:56 AM
 
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Since you mention a Chinese company, car makers basically have to localize their cars for each country, I suppose, due to differing customs and rules.
Plus, facial recognition is not so reliable on black faces, I heard.
I think any self-driving car would be overwhelmed in a place like Lagos, Nigeria, lots of black faces, wild gestures, chaotic driving and pedestrians crossing the street anywhere
Will the driverless car have the ability to give the finger?

I imagine these cars will obey speed limits, so a lot of people will be probably be late for work and appointments at least in the beginning.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Unskilled labor will soon be totally automated. This is just reality. this is why college is so important, but some on the right are still stuck in the 60's.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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Since you mention a Chinese company, car makers basically have to localize their cars for each country, I suppose, due to differing customs and rules.
Plus, facial recognition is not so reliable on black faces, I heard.
I think any self-driving car would be overwhelmed in a place like Lagos, Nigeria, lots of black faces, wild gestures, chaotic driving and pedestrians crossing the street anywhere
Facial gestures and facial recognition for security are two different things. You are mixing them up.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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Robots will do the job that immigrants don't want to do... isn't that the excuse the liberals use?
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Unskilled labor will soon be totally automated. This is just reality. this is why college is so important, but some on the right are still stuck in the 60's.
Just yesterday pro-amnesty folks on this forum were arguing that our shrinking(or not sufficiently growing) native born population made massive unskilled immigration a necessity just so we could keep our workforce large enough to keep up with economic expansion. It seems the robots will be taking all those jobs though.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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But not outside, my cell phone is ancient (only for emergencies) and I never carry it with me. When I leave the house, I do it like in 1980.
I have come to hate cars, I wish I lived in one of those medieval mountain towns where there are no cars.
So if you have an emergency outside the house you are out of luck? Not much of any payphones anymore. I have a business that is connected to the online world. My smartphone is a tool that makes me money and more responsive to my customers. I don't use it to play games or be on facebook, not that I am saying that there is anything wrong with using you phone for those types of things. For me its essential to be connected all the time.

I embrace technology. Not every advancement to me is positive but overall I like where things are headed. I am impressed with progress and those who figure out how to monetize it.

If you want to live in the mountains without any modern conveniences nothing is stopping you. There are lots of people off the grid. Posting on CD might a problem however.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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GM executives have said they planned to introduce a large-scale fleet of self-driving taxis by 2019, a time frame some analysts consider ambitious.
That's pretty naïve of them. Who in his right mind would ever get into a taxi that would then pull out into busy traffic with no driver???

Even if these things racked up a better safety record than taxis driven by humans, I doubt anyone would ever trust his life to one, relying on a bunch of microchips and sensors supplied by the lowest bidder. I sure as hell wouldn't.

The only way these "driverless" taxis (or driverless cars of any kind) would ever be tolerated, is if there was a human driver sitting in front of ordinary controls, keeping his hands in his lap and feet off the pedals, but ready to hit the brakes or whatever when the mechanism broke down or made a wrong decision.

And then there would be no cost benefit to "driverless" taxis, since they had to have a human driver in them anyway. Paying full attention to the road just in case.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Just yesterday pro-amnesty folks on this forum were arguing that our shrinking(or not sufficiently growing) native born population made massive unskilled immigration a necessity just so we could keep our workforce large enough to keep up with economic expansion. It seems the robots will be taking all those jobs though.
They will take a lot of the grunt jobs that go to unskilled labor. Unskilled immigrants would better off staying in their 3rd world countries with their unskilled jobs where it might be a generation before automation takes over.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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That's pretty naïve of them. Who in his right mind would ever get into a taxi that would then pull out into busy traffic with no driver???

Even if these things racked up a better safety record than taxis driven by humans, I doubt anyone would ever trust his life to one, relying on a bunch of microchips and sensors supplied by the lowest bidder. I sure as hell wouldn't.

The only way these "driverless" taxis (or driverless cars of any kind) would ever be tolerated, is if there was a human driver sitting in front of ordinary controls, keeping his hands in his lap and feet off the pedals, but ready to hit the brakes or whatever when the mechanism broke down or made a wrong decision.

And then there would be no cost benefit to "driverless" taxis, since they had to have a human driver in them anyway. Paying full attention to the road just in case.
Sure some people won't but many people will. I personally won't be a first adopter but as soon as they rack up a better safety record you bet I'm in. There will be early adopters, people who join after the early adopters have proven the tech and any early issues are worked out, and resisters, and even if the last group is large it'll still be economically viable. Make a service both cheaper and safer and people will for the most part get over their hangups.
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