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Old 01-26-2018, 03:26 AM
 
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The USA probably hit "peak-LGBT" around the time the Chik-Fil-A scandal, and the media circus that accompanied it, backfired in spectacular style. I hear they're currently doing great business up north.

October 2016: Why Chick-fil-A is beating every other fast-food chain in the US
August 2017: Why Chick-fil-A's restaurants sell 4 times as much as KFC's

Who would have thought offending the far left would turn out to be such a lucrative business model.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:38 AM
 
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I think it's more of Americans being fed up with the nonstop barrage of in your face petty drama and intolerance shown by the LGBTQ community than being uncomfortable with their lifestyles.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/amer...172719953.html
I have never met an activist from the LGBTQ community. However, I have noticed more gay couples as opposed to just 2 guys walking side-by-side. I think that is a good thing. If nobody makes a big deal about these normal people doing normal things, they won't need activists. By the way, every major group who has ground to gain, has activists. For example, I consider your post with its comments "in your face, petty drama and intolerance" an activist's post.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:58 AM
 
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Then please explain this in the light of the couple threatened with bankruptcy for declining to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple, in violation of their personal values, and sense of integrity.

Yeah, yeah, we all know: "They're obligated to serve the public", as all faithful Lefties are taught to parrot.

But please explain to us how a wedding cake can be considered a necessity, on a level with basic utilities, medicine, transportation, and accommodations. We're prepared to wait a long time for a logical answer.
I don't see any more logic in your counter.

What does operating a retail shop have to do with sales being restricted to "a necessity"? It doesn't make sense.

A Jewish man comes into my clothing shop and wants buy a tie for his wedding, and I say, "Sorry, I believe that Jesus threw Judaism into the garbage can. I cannot sell you a tie to wear at a Jewish wedding it is against my most dearly held sacred beliefs. And don't bellyache about it, a tie is not a necessity."

People could drag up all manner of religious nutbaggery to justify giving this group or that the shaft.
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Old 01-26-2018, 04:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I have never met an activist from the LGBTQ community. However, I have noticed more gay couples as opposed to just 2 guys walking side-by-side. I think that is a good thing. If nobody makes a big deal about these normal people doing normal things, they won't need activists. By the way, every major group who has ground to gain, has activists. For example, I consider your post with its comments "in your face, petty drama and intolerance" an activist's post.
A lot of people, 77% of those age 30+ (old enough to have school age kids), for example, disagree with allowing males to change/shower with females in open space multiple occupancy school locker/shower rooms just because they "say" they happen to feel like a girl that day (no proof necessary, this is all just based on say-so). Source: CBS Poll.

That's not "activism." That's reacting defensively to being forced to put one's daughters, sisters, nieces, granddaughters, etc., at risk, exposing them to the opposite anatomical gender against their will, and forcing them to expose themselves to the opposite anatomical gender against their will, just because a teenage boy "says" he feels like he's a girl that day so he can change and shower with the girls in the girls' facilities.

Don't believe that's what happened? Read the Obama Admin's "Dear Colleague" letter:

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"Under Title IX, there is no medical diagnosis or treatment requirement that students must meet as a prerequisite to being treated consistent with their gender identity.

...Under title IX, a school must treat students consistent with their gender identity even if their education records or identification documents indicate a different sex." And the edict insisted the same be true for bathroom/locker/shower room use:

...Restrooms and Locker Rooms... A school may not require transgender students to use facilities inconsistent with their gender identity or to use individual-user facilities when other students are not required to do so."
https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/li...ransgender.pdf

Schools were threatened with the loss of federal funding if they didn't comply. Note that this edict requires no proof of transgender status whatsoever, and relies only on a student's "say so," and is all just based on "interpretation" which actually has no legal basis, either Constitutionally or according to Federal Law. The Federal Civil Rights Act and Title IX provide no rights for LGBT, as they're not a Federally protected class. Despite numerous attempts, and regardless of which political party was in power, Congress has always declined to pass a Bill that would add LGBT as a protected class.
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Old 01-26-2018, 04:39 AM
 
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A lot of people, 77% of those age 30+ (old enough to have school age kids), for example, disagree with allowing males to change/shower with females in open space multiple occupancy school locker/shower rooms just because they "say" they happen to feel like a girl that day (no proof necessary, this is all just based on say-so). Source: CBS Poll.

That's not "activism." That's reacting defensively to being forced to put one's daughters, sisters, nieces, granddaughters, etc., at risk, exposing them to the opposite anatomical gender against their will, and forcing them to expose themselves to the opposite anatomical gender against their will, just because a teenage boy "says" he feels like he's a girl that day so he can change and shower with the girls in the girls' facilities.

Don't believe that's what happened? Read the Obama Admin's "Dear Colleague" letter:


https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/li...ransgender.pdf

Schools were threatened with the loss of federal funding if they didn't comply. Note that this edict requires no proof of transgender status whatsoever, and relies only on a student's "say so," and is all just based on "interpretation" which actually has no legal basis, either Constitutionally or according to Federal Law. The Federal Civil Rights Act and Title IX provide no rights for LGBT, as they're not a Federally protected class. Despite numerous attempts, and regardless of which political party was in power, Congress has always declined to pass a Bill that would add LGBT as a protected class.
More reason to get the federal government out of school funding and thus policy making altogether.
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Old 01-26-2018, 05:39 AM
 
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I have never met an activist from the LGBTQ community. However, I have noticed more gay couples as opposed to just 2 guys walking side-by-side. I think that is a good thing. If nobody makes a big deal about these normal people doing normal things, they won't need activists. By the way, every major group who has ground to gain, has activists. For example, I consider your post with its comments "in your face, petty drama and intolerance" an activist's post.
Exactly.

The only people making a big deal about gays ... are gays. Nobody else cares. And I think that is the problem. The LGBT agenda wants more, more, more, attention, celebration, cannot ever have an opinion that isn't lockstep or you're immediately labeled a bigot, homophobe if you aren't interested or don't care. The word used to mean someone who actively hated LGBT, which isn't correct usage, but that is how it was used.

Now it's used for anyone and everyone who doesn't immediately accept 100% whatever agenda/meme is going around and dares to have a different opinion. Like, I don't care what you do. Somehow that is now considered hateful, because I should care all the time and devote all my energy into being an "ally." Newsflash: I've got a ton of other stuff to do. Unless you want to be my ally? Nope, didn't think so. And I don't CARE if you don't want to be my ally. Go live your life and I'll live mine.

See how that works?
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Old 01-26-2018, 05:43 AM
 
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Exactly.

The only people making a big deal about gays ... are gays. Nobody else cares. And I think that is the problem. The LGBT agenda wants more, more, more, attention, celebration, cannot ever have an opinion that isn't lockstep or you're immediately labeled a bigot, homophobe if you aren't interested or don't care. The word used to mean someone who actively hated LGBT, which isn't correct usage, but that is how it was used.

Now it's used for anyone and everyone who doesn't immediately accept 100% whatever agenda/meme is going around and dares to have a different opinion. Like, I don't care what you do. Somehow that is now considered hateful, because I should care all the time and devote all my energy into being an "ally." Newsflash: I've got a ton of other stuff to do. Unless you want to be my ally? Nope, didn't think so. And I don't CARE if you don't want to be my ally. Go live your life and I'll live mine.

See how that works?
Agree, but with a small correction. The only people making a big deal out of it are the leftist gays, just as leftists in general are the ones making big deals out of race relations, etc.

Lesson? The left destroys everything it touches.
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:02 AM
 
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Agree, but with a small correction. The only people making a big deal out of it are the leftist gays, just as leftists in general are the ones making big deals out of race relations, etc.

Lesson? The left destroys everything it touches.
Agreed. The smallest groups yell the loudest even though they don't represent the majority. I'm friends with a lesbian couple and they want no part of this mess. They are very private and don't want the attention.
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:06 AM
 
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Agreed. The smallest groups yell the loudest even though they don't represent the majority. I'm friends with a lesbian couple and they want no part of this mess. They are very private and don't want the attention.
We are an interracial gay, married couple and have never, ever felt discriminated against. If one believes he's a victim, he will be.
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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We are an interracial gay, married couple and have never, ever felt discriminated against. If one believes he's a victim, he will be.
Agree 100%. I'm female and have been told many times how females are treated so unfairly in the USA. usually by women who have been brainwashed to believe it and have never, ever faced discrimination or oppression of any kind, or even seen what would be considered discrimination/oppression. But they somehow believe it is rampant and happening to all women every moment of the day.

Victimhood is a voluntary mental illness these days. Lots of participants.
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