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Old 02-16-2018, 05:38 PM
 
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Just today, Hamilton 68 reported a massive surge in bot activity following the Parkland, FL shooting. The bots were out in full force putting out social media posts for both sides of the debate. You may ask "well what's wrong with that?"

What's wrong is that while, as Americans, two people could disagree on one topic we might be able to have a civilized discourse. These bots take those sides of the argument and they throw nasty rhetoric, race baiting, and lies into both sides of the argument thereby causing a civil discussion to escalate into anger and people becoming very polarized and entrenched.

Now, shame on us for falling for it, but we didn't know. I hope we know better now.
Good points. The right wants a wall on the southern border for security reasons. The internet is one big open border. Virtually anyone from anywhere can organize these divisive campaigns to stir up tensions. Maybe it's time to think about whether or not the internet should have an open border. Enemies overseas do not have 1st amendment rights here.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Best response I've seen so far.

Hillary getting debate questions in advance from Donna Brazille = OK.
Hillary buying fraudulent dossier and sharing with FBI and media = OK.
90%+ negative reporting and trolling by media before, during and after election = OK.
3 million + illegals voting in election = OK.

13 Russian trolls on internet = CRIME.

Got it.
A) Hillary isn't the president
B) It is doubtful Hillary knew about the dossier before the FBI.
C) All we want to know is what part Donnie actually played while the Russkies were trying to influence the election, i.e., what did he know and when did he know it. If he or any of his staff knew about any of the Russian shenanigans going on, it is concrete proof of collusion.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:41 PM
 
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It would have been a different story if Trump had lost. Totally different, probably on both sides.

But I don't actually care if it had been Hillary who won and they worked to get her in.

I think we all need to be keenly aware that they are out, not just to pick candidates who will be softer on them sanction-wise, but they also want to divide our populace.

Just today, Hamilton 68 reported a massive surge in bot activity following the Parkland, FL shooting. The bots were out in full force putting out social media posts for both sides of the debate. You may ask "well what's wrong with that?"

What's wrong is that while, as Americans, two people could disagree on one topic we might be able to have a civilized discourse. These bots take those sides of the argument and they throw nasty rhetoric, race baiting, and lies into both sides of the argument thereby causing a civil discussion to escalate into anger and people becoming very polarized and entrenched.

Now, shame on us for falling for it, but we didn't know. I hope we know better now.





America was not holding hands and singing Kumbaya befor the Russians
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Obama said Russians threats were 1980s fear mongering and said clearly the election can't be meddled with



Obama and the Dems
Didn't give a crap about the Russians until Hillary lost
You didn't explain why Donnie refuses to sign the new sanctions. Please elucidate.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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A) Hillary isn't the president
B) It is doubtful Hillary knew about the dossier before the FBI.
C) All we want to know is what part Donnie actually played while the Russkies were trying to influence the election, i.e., what did he know and when did he know it. If he or any of his staff knew about any of the Russian shenanigans going on, it is concrete proof of collusion.



You libs are basically saying she would be the president now if it weren't for the Russians


That Hillary was a squeaky clean innocent while Trump stole the election from her





Many people do not agree
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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I doubt the Russians spent near as much as they pumped into the Clinton Foundation.

So, you're saying the Russians found someone (Trump) who is willing to give them a discount?

You don't say.

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Old 02-16-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I apologize if this was already mentioned, but it seems like it might be significant:

"Despite Rosenstein's caveat, the indictment does detail communications between unnamed Trump campaign officials and the Russian defendants. The three campaign officials, identified only as campaign officials 1, 2 and 3, were involved in the Trump campaign's Florida operation, the indictment says. On at least three occasions, as detailed in the indictment, American personas created by the defendants wrote to the campaign officials, in some instances about rallies they were organizing. In one instance, a Russian persona wrote to one Florida campaign official identifying 13 "confirmed locations" where they would be holding rallies in the state and asked the campaign to provide "assistance in each location," according to the indictment. The indictment does not say whether the unnamed campaign officials ever responded to the Russian personas."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/polit...nce/index.html
Seems to be about the id theft.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Read the indictments. They were doing a lot more than just tweeting.

This was an organized crime operation on US soil, organized by a foreign government. It is an assault on US sovereignty. It is nearly an act of war.

It's time for Trumpkins to man or woman up and be patriots.

You either love America or you love Trump. Are you with us or against us?
Ooo! Ooo! Pick me!
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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Read the indictments. They were doing a lot more than just tweeting.
And keep in mind, this is just what we have had released to this point.

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This was an organized crime operation on US soil, organized by a foreign government. It is an assault on US sovereignty. It is nearly an act of war.
I disagree. The Russians called it information warfare. It IS a act of war in my opinion, although barely.

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It's time for Trumpkins to man or woman up and be patriots.
Even Trump has stated:
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Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced that I would run for President. The results of the election were not impacted. The Trump campaign did nothing wrong - no collusion! -realdonaldtrump
Which is nice...but Trump had started talking about campaigning before then
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You either love America or you love Trump. Are you with us or against us?
You can love both Trump and America. At this point in time they are not mutually exclusive. NOTHING so far is proof enough that the two are exclusive. Its hard not to think that at times, but honestly, you can love America, and still support Trump. If later Trump is proven to have colluded I will agree with you. But even the fact that Trump may have obstructed justice doesnt make this a binary choice. Trump may have obstructed justice because he is a idiot who trusted everyone he knew, and couldnt believe that advisor X had really been a bad guy.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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You libs are basically saying she would be the president now if it weren't for the Russians

That Hillary was a squeaky clean innocent while Trump stole the election from her

Many people do not agree
No, most libs are saying that what Russia did is NOT OK. Hardly any of them are saying Clinton should be president. Might she have been if Russia had not done this? Probably. But we have a process, and none of the process seems to have been affected.

IE fake votes weren't created. Gullible people voted how Russia wanted. You're making up a huge straw man, and then knocking it down.
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