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Old 02-16-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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If you look at these posts it’s very clear how Russia could succeed in aiding chaos and instability in our country. We are so divided. It’s almost like some get off on the hate. What I see? Russia was meddling in our elections via the web. Other means as well. They can blend though because both parties are guilty of the same antics.
Trump needs to take charge and stand tall and firm against Russia. However, with the internet open the way it is that’s a hard task.
Democrats need to tone down the illegitimate President and Russian spy crap. It’s dividing. It’s also,as of now, unsubstantiated.
We have a little less than 3 years of Trump left. A blip in the scheme of things.
Let’s hope if all of this nonsense can die down he maybe can rise to the occasion and be an ok world leader. After all, our country has definately not sunk to the levels some predicted when he won.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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What real Americans and their country? Certainly not the ancestral Americans trying to conserve any of it. All we have now is open borders and globalist and foreigners dismantling America.
Who are you calling an "ancestral American?" Some of my folks got here in 1647, but they were met at the boat by Pamunkey Indians. Think I might qualify?

I'm a moderate Democrat and an American patriot. And as such, I deplore Russian interference in our democratic process and a weakling president who thus far has denied that interference, and now that it is undeniable, has yet to comment on it.

That's "foreigners" attempting to dismantle America in my book. As for conservation, I'd really like to see America remain America. You know, Declaration of Independence, Constitution, representative government with honestly elected representatives, country before party, honest elections, and so on.

Same things my ancestor and George Washington had in mind when they were at Valley Forge.

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Old 02-16-2018, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The left has zero proof actually.


They especially don't have proof that Russia swung the election from Hillary to Trump like they c Liam
I never saw anybody claim that, not even Mueller. Crimes are not always successfully completed, but noinetheless, they are still crimes.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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All this proves is that Trump has done nothing wrong.

(You really didn't think this thing through did you.)
It does nothing of the sort. What nonsense.

(You really didn't think this thing through did you.)
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Americans are a bunch of hypocrites. We've been meddling in other countries elections for 100 years and now we're highly offended when someone tries to do it to us.

Hillary didn't lose the election because of any Russians. She's a bytch who sucks as a human being.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:17 PM
 
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It does nothing of the sort. What nonsense.

(You really didn't think this thing through did you.)
What law has Trump been proved to have broken?

None you say?

Case closed. (yet again)
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:19 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Is that the Russians paid trump supporters. They paid them to show up at trump rallies and to instigate against Hillary. After all the allegations about Soros paying protesters it was the trump side all along who was taking cash!

This really is the Roy Cohn playbook - accuse the other side of that which you are guilty of.
Let's not forget the other part now shall we? He also said that the Russians paid for anti-Trump rallies, some on the same day as the pro-Trump rallies.

Try not to be so one sided (aka a partisan hack) when speaking of a news story...
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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What law has Trump been proved to have broken?

None you say?

Case closed. (yet again)
Proved? You do know thats the purpose of investigations right?

The case is open. you're like the guy who says "Me? I didnt do it. BAM case closed!" while standing over a body with a bloody knife.

What nonsense
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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Is that the Russians paid trump supporters. They paid them to show up at trump rallies and to instigate against Hillary. After all the allegations about Soros paying protesters it was the trump side all along who was taking cash!

This really is the Roy Cohn playbook - accuse the other side of that which you are guilty of.
You act as if the two are mutually exclusive, yet actual evidence supports Soros funding bused in people, and various supporters of Hillary flew false flags to impugn Bernie & his supporters. So at best you can claim both sides engaged in it, though I doubt the Russians were being paid by the RNC like all the scandal the DNC has been exposed being involved with.


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Old 02-16-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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Let's not forget the other part now shall we? He also said that the Russians paid for anti-Trump rallies, some on the same day as the pro-Trump rallies.

Try not to be so one sided (aka a partisan hack) when speaking of a news story...
Absolutely. Lets not forget the purposes of this. It wasnt about electing someone specific, it was about causing chaos and a loss of confidence in our institutions. It succeeded vastly better then they expected I think.
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