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Old 02-16-2018, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The sanctions were worthless to start with and didn't come until late.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/29/polit...use/index.html

Date: Jan 2017. After the elections.
If they were worthless, why would Putin want them lifted, and why would Flynn have promised he could get it done?
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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Horrible, foreign nationals supporting a candidate and getting involved in our elections. Sheesh, the US would never do that.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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No, most libs are saying that what Russia did is NOT OK. Hardly any of them are saying Clinton should be president. Might she have been if Russia had not done this? Probably. But we have a process, and none of the process seems to have been affected.

IE fake votes weren't created. Gullible people voted how Russia wanted. You're making up a huge straw man, and then knocking it down.



"Gullible people voted how Russia wanted"


So you're saying people didn't vote for Hillary because of Russia


So yes, you are basically saying Russia stole the election from her
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Getting much clearer now.

The Russians DID help to get Trump elected!
Of course they did. Everybody here has known that forever.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You libs are basically saying she would be the president now if it weren't for the Russians


That Hillary was a squeaky clean innocent while Trump stole the election from her





Many people do not agree
Not at all. The extent of their meddling is an entirely unknown quantity at this point. This isn't about results, it's about a presidential campaign and whether or not any of it's principals conspired with a foreign government to try to affect the election. If Trump or any of his staff had contact with any of the people indicted, it is not officially "Collusion". Trump can remain as president as long as he can prove he's legit and did not know about the Russian interference, regardless of what happens with Hillary.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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The Russian trolls are having a big laugh right now!! YOU people on the left have been feeding them for a more year now!!
Oh, good, news from St Petersburg...
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The Russian trolls are having a big laugh right now!! YOU people on the left have been feeding them for a more year now!!
Drink a toast to us before the party's over, comrade.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Nope, wrong yet again. The russian government elected Trump. That is not a duly elected POTUS. Sorry.
Prove it, FACTS please. Mueller specifically stated nothing they did had any effect on the election...
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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Actually they said no American was involved with Russian interference and no votes were changed
You are taking a quote VASTLY out of context.

They said no American in THIS indictment. There have been earlier ones that did involve Americans, and there may be indictments in which other Americans may be indicted. They were talking about just this one.

And correct no votes were changed, but if you think millions of dollars and tons of propaganda didn't cause some Americans to change their votes you are simply trying to ignore reality. Propaganda like this is done because it works. Posters here have even stated that propaganda kept someone they knew from voting for Clinton.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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Is that the Russians paid trump supporters. They paid them to show up at trump rallies and to instigate against Hillary. After all the allegations about Soros paying protesters it was the trump side all along who was taking cash!

This really is the Roy Cohn playbook - accuse the other side of that which you are guilty of.

All this proves is that Trump has done nothing wrong.

(You really didn't think this thing through did you.)
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