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When is Mueller going to indict Putin and bring him to America for trial?
What total idiots.
I realize, to some who have no idea what the implications of this are, it might seem like a nothingburger. But, in reality, what it does is put those Russians into the lime light, and it will let them know we have the ability to detect them when they are playing their little games.
There are 3 things that have been proven so far:
1) The Russians DID try to subvert out political process, both to disrupt our election and also to divide the country.
2) The Russians did try to negatively influence people with regard to Hillary Clinton.
3) The Russians did try to positively influence people with regard to Donald Trump.
The unknowns are, how much of an impact this had on the outcome, and that is something we will never know. That will be left up to political scientists to debate and interpret.
I realize, to some who have no idea what the implications of this are, it might seem like a nothingburger. But, in reality, what it does is put those Russians into the lime light, and it will let them know we have the ability to detect them when they are playing their little games.
There are 3 things that have been proven so far:
1) The Russians DID try to subvert out political process, both to disrupt our election and also to divide the country.
2) The Russians did try to negatively influence people with regard to Hillary Clinton.
3) The Russians did try to positively influence people with regard to Donald Trump.
The unknowns are, how much of an impact this had on the outcome, and we will never know. That will be left up to political scientists to debate and interpret.
Correction
Russian nationals were indicted for saying bad things about Hillary. The law they broke is that they didn't register as foreign nationals before doing so.
Beyond that, including involvement by the Russian government, nothing more has been proved or even alleged.
Uhmm...you do know that is not true right? Russia has been under sanctions for quite some time before the election.
All of it was over sanctions imposed over the elections.
Prosecutors have said Mr Flynn in December asked Russia's ambassador to the US, Sergei Kislyak, "not to escalate the situation" after the outgoing Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia in retaliation for suspected election interference.
None of this was on anyone's radar when the Russians are supposed to have decided to help Trump. Also as I said, there would have been no sanctions if Hillary would have won so the Russians would have been ahead there if they really cared.
So, a Soros indictment for interfering in US and EU elections is coming next?
This is a guy who thinks that people talking to one another over social media, about politics that he disagrees with, constitutes a "danger" that should be regulated.
These indictments of the political speech of foreign nationals are a toe in the water for prosecution of anti-Left political speech in general.
But let me ask you. When was the last time that you were influenced by a Russian?
Hmmm...probably when I heard some Tchaikovsky the other day.
Actually, Russia's government's actions have raised my blood pressure considerably ever since they invaded and stole Crimea and attacked Ukraine. started a war, killed over 2,000 civilians in the process and starved additional hundreds of thousands.
Russia started its attack on Ukraine with some of the same techniques outlined in today's indictments. Now, I don't think we'll be losing any of our territory to Russia or be invaded. Not outside of the virtual world, that is. But online - they're already here and have been for some time.
So yes, I have been influenced - I worry about the future of my country and become exasperated with those who absolutely worship Trump and cannot even admit the possibility of Russian interference and influence, despite the growing heap of evidence right before their eyes.
Please note, you asked if _I_, not my vote, had been influenced by a Russian, although I assume you meant my vote, not me personally.
So - in light of what I knew at the time of the election, I was determined to vote for Hillary Clinton. That decision would be the same and my support for Clinton would be even stronger if the election were held today, in light of all that we have learned about Trump's policies, personal inadequacies, corruption and character flaws, and about Russian interference and the multitude of Russian connections of various kinds within the Trump administration's members and within Trump's own family and in Trump's own past business dealings.
Hillary Clinton's flaws and issues are minor, compared to those of Trump.
All of it was over sanctions imposed over the elections.
Prosecutors have said Mr Flynn in December asked Russia's ambassador to the US, Sergei Kislyak, "not to escalate the situation" after the outgoing Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia in retaliation for suspected election interference.
None of this was on anyone's radar when the Russians are supposed to have decided to help Trump. Also as I said, there would have been no sanctions if Hillary would have won so the Russians would have been ahead there if they really cared.
You overlook a large European country called Ukraine...
All of it was over sanctions imposed over the elections.
Prosecutors have said Mr Flynn in December asked Russia's ambassador to the US, Sergei Kislyak, "not to escalate the situation" after the outgoing Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia in retaliation for suspected election interference.
None of this was on anyone's radar when the Russians are supposed to have decided to help Trump. Also as I said, there would have been no sanctions if Hillary would have won so the Russians would have been ahead there if they really cared.
I realize, to some who have no idea what the implications of this are, it might seem like a nothingburger. But, in reality, what it does is put those Russians into the lime light, and it will let them know we have the ability to detect them when they are playing their little games.
There are 3 things that have been proven so far:
1) The Russians DID try to subvert out political process, both to disrupt our election and also to divide the country.
2) The Russians did try to negatively influence people with regard to Hillary Clinton.
3) The Russians did try to positively influence people with regard to Donald Trump.
The unknowns are, how much of an impact this had on the outcome, and that is something we will never know. That will be left up to political scientists to debate and interpret.
And Hillary had a billion dollar campaign, the media, Hollywood, and the Obama administration on her side
And they couldn't overcome some Facebook trolls
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