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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the professor throwing the student out because he disagreed with her?
Yes 4 3.67%
No 105 96.33%
Voters: 109. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-13-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You did not check with science very well. Biology does not hold that there are simply two genders. There is much thought and discussion on what gender actually is and how it works. Certainly virtually all have some traces of both genders in various biological parameters.

And gender in biology has gotten all caught up in when is one of a particular gender. Look into the problem of some female athletes who have male components that cause their female gender to be questioned.

Gender simply is not binary. Much more complex. And that is only the biology part. There are others.
If gender is not binary and based on biology then why aren’t gender studies students required to take biology?
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Sometime in the late 80s my cousin got kicked out of class after getting into a fight with another student over Van Halen w/Roth vs. Van Halen w/Hagar.

Ah, the good old days were much simpler.

BTW Van Halen w/Hagar > Van Halen w/Roth.
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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If gender is not binary and based on biology then why aren’t gender studies students required to take biology?
Please - let us not get absurd. There is lots to gender other than biology.
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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From the Professor's violation description:

I don't know if he engaged in outbursts or not. If he did, fair game in being ejected. But being removed from the class permanently and told not to return or have any contact with the Professor until the issue is resolved is extreme. And she's set up some form of punishment to publicly shame him.

So regardless of how this happened, she is nuts and shouldn't be holding such a job.

If you look at the last sentence of the quote; "claim that a low score on any class work would be evidence of professor’s personal prejudice."

You accuse a teacher of that in advance, and you're basically asking to be dropped.
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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You can disagree with your teacher in an English class. They don't throw you out for it.
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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You poll is fundamentally flawed and useless because there are at least 3 plausible options, but you only offer two choices.

The professor was clearly wrong to throw the student out of class, but would have been perfectly justified in marking the student's answer wrong if given on a test.

I would also add that it is hard to tell what really happened based on this article. I suspect that mere disagreement was not really the problem, but if it was, then the teacher was obviously being oversensitive and foolish. If the student was, in fact, acting rude and disrespectful, etc., then the teacher might have had reasonable grounds for banishing the student. It would be useful to hear from other students in the class.


If the teacher was just plain and simply trying to silence an opposing view, then this has nothing to do with being "liberal", per se, but would rather be an issue of intolerance and stupidity. Foolishness of this sort happens all across the political spectrum.
This is pretty much where I am. The prof has the authority to keep order in the classroom.

But the prof was definitely wrong to make it an issue about who has the power in the classroom.

I think a better way of handling it would have been for the prof to throw the ball back to the student - "OK, Mr Student, I can see that you have given this matter some thought. So how about we set aside some class time for you to make a 10 minute presentation on the issue of gender, say next week? You can present the evidence for your contention. Now do I have a volunteer to present the opposite case?"

Everyone would have learned something useful.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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There are only two genders. It's not even a discussion.

Any refute is pure cultural Marxist politics.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:21 PM
 
Location: 89434
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The teacher doesn't need to be respectful of the student's uninformed views.
The kid had 1st amendment rights to speak what he wanted to say. It seems like leftists support 1st amendment rights only when it's something they agree with. They use the 1st amendment to defend athletes kneeling during the anthem, and large crowds to protest Trump. But they are willing to shut down Milo or Ann Coulter and prevent them from exercising their first amendment rights.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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This professor is a white Western and Christian subversive indoctrinating her students.
The funny thing is that religion is indoctrination.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:29 PM
 
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We weren't there so we don't know exactly what happened. However, I think the professor felt angry for having at least some of her claims debunked in a fashion that made her, the professor, seem ignorant or a propagandist.

The professor was teaching 100% false stats like women make 77 cents on the dollar to that of a man, but spinning that to mean women make 77 cents for the same job, same experience, etc...which is not true. For the professor to make this claim throughout class and then have it debunked in that fashion would be embarrassing for the professor.
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