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Old 04-05-2018, 05:16 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I'm not sure where you saw people saying this. I said repeatedly that the President could deploy the National Guard to support the Border Patrol. After all, both Obama and Bush also sent the National Guard to help the Border Patrol during their administrations. The governor of Texas also sent the National Guard to assist the Border Patrol in that state.

As I and others did point out, however, as in previous administrations, the National Guard will be limited to support functions. They'll be doing things like monitoring the electronic surveillance systems in the southern parts of the county, providing helicopter support for border patrol work, etc.

Federal law prohibits the National Guard (and other arms of the full time military) from doing things like arresting, detaining, and interrogating people on U.S. soil when another law enforcement agency (the Border Patrol, ICE) is already doing that. But, I'm sure it will be helpful to the border patrol to be freed up from more routine tasks, just as it was during the Obama and Bush administrations.

As someone who lives right by the border, I have no problem with the National Guard giving that support to the Border Patrol, just as I didn't during Obama and Bush's terms.
I know you mean well but you are wrong. As I pointed out before the Guard can in fact arrest and enforce laws. Look it up, I did...
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Here is a little more insight into how the pay works. I thought CA had said no, but this article says different.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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I know you mean well but you are wrong. As I pointed out before the Guard can in fact arrest and enforce laws. Look it up, I did...
It looks like under title 32 they can, title 10 they cannot. Apparently PCA does not apply under Title 32.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...border-n862891
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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Here is a little more insight into how the pay works. I thought CA had said no, but this article says different.
Fascinating read !!!

"He has been very clear that he wants to secure our border. He's been very clear that he wants to do that in a bipartisan way with Congress. I think what you're seeing is the president taking his job very seriously, in terms of securing our border and doing everything we can, without Congress, to do just that."
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:25 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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You are correct. I just read on ABC News this morning this group is only temporarily stopping and some will apply for visas in Mexico and the rest have all intention on continuing heading to U.S....

Its absurd that some fellow Americans see this as no problem and instead are making snide, mocking comments to those of us who want these people stopped.
"Generally" these are the people who belong to the political group that wants to benefit from these people entering the country. Sadly, they're willing to trade the makeup of this country for some votes. It's not that they see it or believe it is "no problem", they simply DON'T CARE, it's a means to an end and the means do not matter...

As I've said before, all a President has to do is enforce E-Verify and either push congress to give it some severe teeth. Will it happen? HELL NO as the lobby groups that want the cheap disposable labor benefit too much to give it up...
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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Fascinating read !!! Leaves one hanging on every word. Invisible ink ? Maybe its classified.
Argh. It took me a while to find that article, and now I can't REFIND it.

Basically states pay unless they work it out with the feds.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Deepest Darkest NZ
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It looks like under title 32 they can, title 10 they cannot. Apparently PCA does not apply under Title 32.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...border-n862891
What about posse comitatus?
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:47 PM
 
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What about posse comitatus?
That is PCA (posse camitatus act).

I'm learning as I go....
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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Happening !!! There is more than one state in the Union.
Nope, as usual trump overstep his authority. If the states want to use their NG units that have boarder issues ,then yes those states can but the tangerine turd in the WH can not.
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:22 PM
 
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Nope, as usual trump overstep his authority. If the states want to use their NG units that have boarder issues ,then yes those states can but the tangerine turd in the WH can not.
That's the kind of statement that tells me I'm better off dealing with the fruit basket.
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