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Old 04-10-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
Telling evidence of Trump's comfort with illegal acts was when on Air Force One he responded to that reporter's question about the Stormy Daniels's lawsuit with the info that Michael Cohen was still his attorney

This was a personal attorney/bagman who supposedly in the President's own words had gone forward to pay Daniels to sign the NDA which required Trump to be a party (Trump HAD TO PERFORM certain acts under that NDA or settlement) and yet Trump didn't know about it at the time--according to Trump...

So his attorney commits what really is an illegal act--an attorney cannot bind his client to perform under a contract if/when the client doesn't know and agree to do that performance...

And the client finds out about it--who knows when--maybe a week later, maybe when it showed up in the NYTimes couple of month ago...
And the President STILL HAS THAT MAN AS HIS PERSONAL ATTORNEY
Still has him acting in his "best interests" in trying to protect him in the Daniels case---

Now me--if I find out my attorney has done something to compromise MY integrity and legal standing when his client--I think I am going to get rid of that attorney and ensure he doesn't do anything else that would put ME in jeopardy...
But not Trump....

So I think Trump did know and was a party to the payoff and likely knew where the money was coming from and is part of other illegal acts Cohen participated in...
Because that is how Trump operates...
WOW! That's some high profile crimes there. NOT!

 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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there should be plenty more hilarity to come.
Yep coming from Leftists and Mueller's Keystone Cops.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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Would you be ok with the cops going through every traffic camera, street camera or store camera to find something you may have done a decade or more ago then throw charges at you? That's not how it works and is actually illegal. There is thing called probable cause that MUST be there or it's a violation of the 4th. Probable cause isn't some blanket accusation that covers everything, it MUST be specific.
You are so right---and that was in the evidence that Rosenstein what shown by Mueller and what the SDNY took to the Federal judge in asking for the no-knock warrants used to gather that information from Cohen...
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
Telling evidence of Trump's comfort with illegal acts was when on Air Force One he responded to that reporter's question about the Stormy Daniels's lawsuit with the info that Michael Cohen was still his attorney

This was a personal attorney/bagman who supposedly in the President's own words had gone forward to pay Daniels to sign the NDA which required Trump to be a party (Trump HAD TO PERFORM certain acts under that NDA or settlement) and yet Trump didn't know about it at the time--according to Trump...

So his attorney commits what really is an illegal act--an attorney cannot bind his client to perform under a contract if/when the client doesn't know and agree to do that performance...

And the client finds out about it--who knows when--maybe a week later, maybe when it showed up in the NYTimes couple of month ago...
And the President STILL HAS THAT MAN AS HIS PERSONAL ATTORNEY
Still has him acting in his "best interests" in trying to protect him in the Daniels case---

Now me--if I find out my attorney has done something to compromise MY integrity and legal standing when his client--I think I am going to get rid of that attorney and ensure he doesn't do anything else that would put ME in jeopardy...
But not Trump....

So I think Trump did know and was a party to the payoff and likely knew where the money was coming from and is part of other illegal acts Cohen participated in...
Because that is how Trump operates...
And...you are probably right, but I am absolutely not surprised. And the republicans absolutely don't care. So we can only rely on what's legal.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Damned good one too. They're finding witches left and right. Looks like they may get a bag limit before the hunt is finished.
What's the limit?
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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lmao, you call extremely low level stuff that an ordinary DA could do "a damned good job" from a Special Counsel Prosecutor. It's embarrassing to say the least. Mueller has only found tiny fry that mean nothing.
Man, what a bummer that Trump's life long attorney is so incompetent that he would be brought down by such extremely low level stuff that an ordinary DA could do. Trump should really try to hire the best people instead of surrounding himself exclusively with criminals.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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Sadly, I will admit -- rather than be disgusted by all this, discouraged, angered -- I'm highly entertained. It's almost better than this season of Homeland.
It's a gripping story.

We are actually watching what university law students will study from texts in the future. There will some day be books and documentaries for popular consumption about this era in the same way that we have studies on the antebellum period, or the Teapot Dome scandal, or the great depression, or the civil rights movement.

This is history in the making.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:11 AM
 
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You are so right---and that was in the evidence that Rosenstein what shown by Mueller and what the SDNY took to the Federal judge in asking for the no-knock warrants used to gather that information from Cohen...
It's illegal. So you'd be ok with the police rummaging through your trash looking for a crime you may have committed but they didn't know about and were fishing for it? Again, that's illegal. The entire hooker thing is tabloid nonsense, but that's all Mueller's got. Signing a NDA isn't illegal, nor is lying about it if that's what happened. They are trying to tie the payments to her to illegal campaign contributions. That's a stretch and cannot be proven. It's a witch hunt.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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Implying that a President colluded with the Russians, and sitting a prosecuting sniper in an office to threaten POTUS and to act as a partisan sharp object based on no charges immediately after an election in which the entirety of the MSM, the National Security Apparatus, much of his own party, and FBI agents went completely off of the rails against him is many times more controversial than any one of those other things mentioned.

Do you know what the meaning of "controversy" is or are you conflating this word with anything that makes headlines?

Controversy means that there is stark disagreement.

Who agreed with Nixon taping his opponents? Where was there a two year investigation to uncover evidence that did not yet exist in that situation?

Whitewater was controversial but not to the level of implying treason of a recently elected POTUS. There was no such rampant smell of partisan conspiracy against Clinton outside of the Republican Party. And Clinton ultimately weathered that just fine.

Birtherism? As far as I know, the MSM made sure that stayed relegated to the conservative talk and news sphere. You can't compare permanently planting an independent investigator to snipe POTUS.

Benghazi? First, the Secretary of State is not the president. Second, when during that controversy did the MSM and the NatSec apparatus go all in against Obama/Clinton (Clinton being both unelected, and thus not comparable to Trump, and the primary target of conservative ire in that situation)?

No, history did not start in January 2017. But it would be ridiculous to pretend that any of this has much of a precedent as far as controversy is concerned
Seriously?
You think that an investigation that resulted in a sitting president RESIGNING wasn't at least equally controversial?

Fascinating.

Oh, well, I guess when it's your guy, it's just that much more...special.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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It's a gripping story.

We are actually watching what university law students will study from texts in the future. There will some day be popular books and documentaries about this era in the same way that we have studies on the antebellum period, or the Teapot Dome scandal, or the great depression, or the civil rights movement.

This is history in the making.
Or another "Deep Throat"
Interesting how that name from Watergate investigation and conspiracy was tied to a porn film
And how Trump is perhaps being taken down by contact with a porn star...
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