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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Brew City
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Originally Posted by dashrendar4454 View Post
no
Then why did he have a press conference to announce it? The first words out of his mouth were "I have put, I have put in place a zero tolerance policy..."

Fox and Friends have tried to change the narrative once they discovered the policy is deeply unpopular.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/attorn...-1227626563609

 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by ringwise View Post
Human traffickers.
BS. Even if they are with bad people, they are not UNACCOMPANIED.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by oceangaia View Post
Here's the actual Flores verbiage that recent court tulings have referenced. Note that if you cannot keep a minor in detention then it follows that you cannot keep a family in detention. And it requires placement in facilities suited for minors which precludes placement in facilites designed for adults.


12. Whenever the INS takes a minor into custody,
it shall expeditiously proc
ess the minor and shall
provide the minor with a notice of rights, including the right to a bond redetermination hearing if
applicable. Following arrest, the INS shall hold minors in facilities that are safe and sanitary and that are consistent with the INS's concern for the particular vulnerability of minors.



14. Where the INS determines that the detention of the minor is not required either to secure his or her
timely appearance before the INS or the immigration co
urt, or to ensure the minor's safety or that of
others, the INS shall release a minor from its cust
ody without unnecessary delay, in the following order of
preference, to:
A. a parent;
B. a legal guardian;
C. an adult relative (brother, sister, aunt, uncle, or grandparent);
D. an adult individual or entity designated by the parent or legal guardian as capable and
willing to care for the minor's well-being in (i) a declaration signed under penalty of perjury
before an immigration or consular officer or (ii) such other document(s) that establish(es) to
the satisfaction of the INS, in its discretion, the affiant's paternity or guardianship;
E. a licensed program willing to accept legal custody; or
F. an adult individual or entity seeking custody, in the discretion of the INS, when it appears
that there is no other likely alternative to long term detention and family reunification does not
appear to be a reasonable possibility.

http://www.aila.org/File/Related/14111359b.pdf


STOP.

You are pretending you have something here and you have NOTHING.

NOWHERE does it say families MUST be separated when the cross the border.



What the judge said was, process the kids quickly , that is what expedite means. It does NOT require a family is split up, that is a CHOICE made by Trump's admin.
It is easy, if the judge required cases involving minors are expedited then all they need to do is expedite the entire family.

Do you finally get it? Do you? expedite does not mean act egregiously it means process the kids quickly and that can be done in many many ways and none of them need to be purposely cruel like Trump's policy
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jeffrow1 View Post
Nah, he was just the most unprincipled candidate to ever run. No lie too bold and he appealed to the inner demon in the least educated. He brought out the worst in society to vote.






Deplorable s all over again! Nice to see liberals being honest
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Cali Doll View Post
He blamed the “terrible pictures” on Obama, completely ignoring his own part in this debacle.
President Trump INHERITED this problem. He has nothing to do with this issue.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Heard His wife pressured on him to reverse it.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by kevinm View Post
.... and the ACLU is filing a lawsuit at this minute challenging the EO.
I thought the aclu was against separating families.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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President Trump INHERITED this problem. He has nothing to do with this issue.
Oh, Kevin...
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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And NO. Grudgingly doing the right thing does NOT count as humanitarian. He WILL use it to smear democrats in the near future and smear our past non dictator leaders from the recent past too.

He is still claiming criminal for acts that are MIS demeanor. He doesn't know or care about the law or due process...for a man who is getting WAY benefit of the doubt on his criminal activities against the entire country should be more humble before his judgement day arrives.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by reed067 View Post
Heard His wife pressured on him to reverse it.
He didn’t reverse it. They’re just together in jail now.
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