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The detectors don't have to be ramped up to detect objects as small as a class ring and the security doesn't have to be looking for nail clippers.
But the problem with metal detectors is that it would be a bottleneck and result in a crowd or long line waiting to get through. And that is an even richer target environment.
You could have a simple pass-through checkpoint that would not impede entry and that would stop the rifles. No need for a metal detector to detect those.
Will it work? I remember they had something like that at amusement parks. I wouldn’t object as long as it could work. I know there are going to be incidents no matter what we do, but waiting around for new laws that won’t pass or be effective isn’t working, and we’ve reached a threshold where some kids have decided this is what they need to do to get notoriety and attention. Take that away from them and we will see less of these incidents.
That is NOT the solution. Unless we are talking about a total gun ban and confiscation and closing our borders completely, then it’s not going to work. And we know the chances of that happening is zilch. Congress can’t even get many non-controversial laws passed because they’re always running for the next election. You think we are going to get even the wholly ineffective gun control laws they’re asking for passed in time for the next school year? Dream on!
I'm suggesting we charge parents when kids take their unsecured guns and go shoot up a school and you're saying this won't work?
I bet you it will.
Not every time, but an awful lot of them.
I fail to see why a responsible gun owner would object.
I'm not talking about banning guns. That's ridiculous.
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Has anyone here been in a high school during the day?
Yeah... you'd need a ton of metal detectors AND armed guards to police every entry and exit point with all the larger campuses, mobile units, etc.
It's not really feasible. Schools already tend to have resource officers, so someone armed is on campus.
When you have people pulling fire alarms and the like, you make it so anything you do to stop a shooting can be easily thwarted by a person pulling a fire alarm, waiting outside, and shooting people as they exit.
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Let's play another game, which teacher is armed? Oh the kid just took out the armed guard, now the teacher(s) are alerted....
Your ASSumption is that armed teacher won't work....
My assumption is that teachers do not get paid enough to be armed and the odds of a teachers shooting an innocent student just went way up.
And... the odds of a student disarming a teacher are up there, too.
Schools are a bit chaotic at times. That's a huge responsibility when most of these shootings could be eliminated by making adults who legally own guns store them away from kids. And, if the kids get their hands on them, charge the adults because they are not taking good care of their guns.
That'd stop the majority of shootings. Would not have stopped the Parkland shooting, but most school shooters are not adults, so I'm all for a reduction right off the bat, then we work on reducing further, in whatever reasonable manner we can.
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Columbine happened while the assault weapons ban was still in place. It didn’t stop this problem, and no amount of new laws will either.
The ban actually did help. Eric Harris mentioned it in his journal (or maybe recorded it on tape) that he wanted assault weapons but could not get any since the ban was in place. Less regulation then may have meant more people dying.
FWIW, Columbine also had two guards. One was the SRO while the other for some reason was unarmed. Both were at a nearby fast food place getting lunch when the shooting happened.
Most mass shooters do not expect to survive the shoot. Their death is a part of the plan.
The Texas school had armed SROs. The shooter was a student at the school. He knew there were armed SROs.
Did not stop him from entering the school with guns under his Columbine style coat in 90 degree weather with guns, ammunition and bombs. Did not stop him from shooting 20 people.
Haven't heard the whole store but I believe those two engaging the shooter led to the end of the shooting?
The suspect allegedly wrote in journals that he wanted to carry out the shooting and then commit suicide, but he gave himself up to authorities, according to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, who called the shooting "one of the most heinous attacks that we've ever seen in the history of Texas schools."
As in, what if there weren't ROs.
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