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Old 08-10-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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It's fascinating to watch the NFL destroy its corporate brand.



Just like CNN, WaPo, NYT, Facebook, etc.

 
Old 08-10-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
ok right, so what your saying is the NFL is special job and you can protest and do whatever you want? the owner of the NFL and the team is the BOSS. NFL players are employees end of story.
NFL players and their responsibilities are governed by the CBA and their individual contracts. They cannot do "whatever they want" but instead are obliged to perform their job responsibilities within the parameters of the collective bargaining agreement and their respective contracts. My understanding is that the CBA does not actually prohibit kneeling and, in any event, the owners have apparently agreed that they would rather just let the players kneel.

The owner of the NFL and the team (actually, the individual team owners, but ok) is the BOSS, and the BOSS is letting them kneel. End of story.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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For every player that stands, the teams and Donald Trump give $1,000,000 to
Silicon Valley De-Bug.
Advancement Project
United Playaz
Mothers Against Police Brutality
Imagine LA
Angel by Nature
School on Wheels
Communites United for Police Reform
Youth Service Inc.
H.O.M.E
The ten charities Collin Kaepernick donated his $1 million to.

We'll see if it's really about standing for them
OUCH!!

Ill just repost this whenever the whiners want to see the black players lose money and be poor again.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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This all started because mr k was too lazy to get off his ass during the anthem and he got caught so he had to have an excuse that he protesting. In reality he was lazy and didn't want to be bothered, a diva
 
Old 08-10-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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This all started because mr k was too lazy to get off his ass during the anthem and he got caught so he had to have an excuse that he protesting. In reality he was lazy and didn't want to be bothered, a diva
Back up that claim.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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Most of them are too stupid for patriotism.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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NFL players and their responsibilities are governed by the CBA and their individual contracts. They cannot do "whatever they want" but instead are obliged to perform their job responsibilities within the parameters of the collective bargaining agreement and their respective contracts. My understanding is that the CBA does not actually prohibit kneeling and, in any event, the owners have apparently agreed that they would rather just let the players kneel.

The owner of the NFL and the team (actually, the individual team owners, but ok) is the BOSS, and the BOSS is letting them kneel. End of story.
No, the owners would rather them stand for the NA. Problem is under the CBA both parties have to agree to a rule/policy change.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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No, the owners would rather them stand for the NA. Problem is under the CBA both parties have to agree to a rule/policy change.
The owners don't care if they stand or kneel, only in that they probably lose some money if they kneel.
It's not a moral issue for the owners
It's not a moral issue for Trump

It's only a moral issue for the players.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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Yeah, peaceful protest for a noble cause is such an agonizing thing to behold at a sports event that has no reason whatsoever anyway to play a song written to the tune of an old Brit drinking song by a guy that said this...



noble cause? what cause is that? LOL.... they can protest all they want, we as paying customers can reject their drama.







tell me genius.....of the 195 countries in the world, what country do their athletes do this and the people of that country let them disrespect their flag and national anthem by a few rich spoiled athletes that want attention and call it a "noble" cause apart from the U.S. by the left.




I speak with Mexican and Brazilian friends and they tell me if any of their athletes do that to their national anthem and flag that they are done. They wouldn't have a career and they would have to move out of the country.....and those countries are more corrupt and messed up than the USA and even they know you don't bring your personal beef and politics and disrespect the flag the national anthem of the country.....if they get it, why can't you and the left of this country?
 
Old 08-10-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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noble cause? what cause is that?
This

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The failures we identified in our findings – that we heard about from residents and officers alike
This
The department found that CPD’s pattern or practice of unconstitutional force is largely attributable to deficiencies in its accountability systems and in how it investigates uses of force, responds to allegations of misconduct, trains and supervises officers, and collects and reports data on officer use of force. The department also found that the lack of effective community-oriented policing strategies and insufficient support for officer wellness and safety contributed to the pattern or practice of unconstitutional force.

In addition, the department also identified serious concerns about the prevalence of racially discriminatory conduct by some CPD officers and the degree to which that conduct is tolerated and in some respects caused by deficiencies in CPD’s systems of training, supervision and accountability.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ice-department

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We found that BPD has engaged in a pattern or practice of serious violations of the U.S. Constitution and federal law...The agency also fails to provide officers with the guidance, oversight and resources they need to police safely, constitutionally and effectively.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ice-department


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Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather
than by public safety needs. This emphasis on revenue has compromised the institutional
character of Ferguson’s police department, contributing to a pattern of unconstitutional policing,
and has also shaped its municipal court, leading to procedures that raise due process concerns
and inflict unnecessary harm on members of the Ferguson community. Further, Ferguson’s
police and municipal court practices both reflect and exacerbate existing racial bias, including
racial stereotypes. Ferguson’s own data establish clear racial disparities that adversely impact
African Americans. The evidence shows that discriminatory intent is part of the reason for these
disparities.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...ent_report.pdf
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