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LOL! Yeah, he showed a forged birth certificate (and it wasn't even a decent forgery ...quickly proven to be fake).
There has never been an adequate explanation for why Obama wrote in his own book (Dreams From my Father, in the conversation with Auma while he was at Columbia) that he couldn't prove Obama Sr was his father. Shouldn't it have been a simple matter in the 1980s to get a certified copy of his birth certificate from Hawaii listing Obama Sr as his father? And yet he could not do so. Why not?
So income in the millions from Russia buying his condos at inflated prices......doesn't count?
"doesn't count? Neither does Russia paying sleazeball bill clinton $500,000 for 1 little speech at the SAME TIME hillary is working out the uranium deal!
It is noted how the Lame Stream Media NEVER talks about the clinton's Russian connection. Which is a LOT more then Trump's ever was.
During an investigation they can prosecute for ALL CRIMES UNCOVERED! Aren't you just soooo pissed they found N-O-T-H-I-N-G to charge HILLARY WITH?
False! The appointment of a Special Prosecutor is supposed to name the specific crimes to be investigated. It is not supposed to be open ended, as this so-called investigation is. That makes this totally illegal. And I cite as my source lawyers such as Mark Levin, Gregg Jarrett, Alan Dershowitz and others who have pointed out the illegality of this "investigation" on numerous occasions and have cited the law pertaining to such appointment of Special Counsel. Mark Levin, eminently qualified, as a Constitutional attorney who served in the Reagan White House. The other's qualifications are also unquestionable.
As for Hillary, this investigation has not even looked at her. Why? Because it was supposed to be about "Trump/Russia" 'collusion.' That was the alleged reason for this "investigation."
Hillary's crimes are well known ...but she was never charged. Comey and Strzok wrote an exoneration letter before key witnesses (even Hillary herself) were even interviewed. But she committed many crimes, including the destruction of evidence.
But it was the Hillary team that "colluded" with Russians to create a phony dossier on Trump, and that phony document, paid for by the Hillary campaign, was used illegally to obtain FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. That is a fact which we know.
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The investigation into the Russia interference and its possible connections with the Trump team...is a REPUBLICAN investigation on behalf of the country. It was a Russia investigation...but it came to involve the Trump team because it captured the Trump team communications with the Russian agents. That's how Trump team became involved in the first place. There are at least 87 communications between Trump's team and the Russian agents during Trump's campaign...and we know about one meeting for certain between Trump Jr., Kushner, & Manafort, and a Russian agent, in Trump Tower.
Trump became the focus of part of the investigation because of obstruction of justice when he tried to kill the investigation by firing Comey.
The Mueller investigation was charged with those investigations, but also was given authority to turn over to proper authorities any other crimes it ran across. Mueller referred to Va. and New York white collar crime evidence on Manafort and Cohen.
Tax returns can be related. That's how you would follow the money possibly given by or to Russian agents, through a complex system of multiple shell corporations, if there is evidence of wrongdoing by Trump related to money crimes. There is evidence of such crimes at least regarding the campaign finance violations, and lies regarding that.
In any case, there is civil litigation by New York AG and taxing authorities into the Trump Organization's charity, which seems to have been a slush fund that may not have actually been operated as a charity. That's where a $50k payment came from that may have been used for paying Russian agents, and a lawsuit settlement by Trump came out of that charity. I'd expect the NY AG to get the Trump Organization's tax returns, and maybe Trump's personal returns, as well. The Trump Organization's Accountant, who has handled its affairs for decades, dating back to when Trump's father ran the organizations, has been granted immunity for testifying.
The Dems may be happy about rooting out the crimes of the President and his team, but the investigations are being done by and on behalf of the United States, and mainly run by ethical govt servants who happen to be Republican. Hard to believe, but most civil servants at high levels disregard their political leanings, and just do their jobs. They are loyal to the country and the Constitution. Not to a person, much to Trump's displeasure. Remember that he asked Comey to pledge his personal loyalty to him (which Comey did not do...that wasn't the job of the FBI Director...his oath of office was to the country), and he expects the AG to be his personal servant (which is not the job of the AG).
" It was a Russia investigation...but it came to involve the Trump team because it captured the Trump team communications with the Russian agents."
Where is the SAME intensity and scrutiny on hillary's involvement with the Russian government?
Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told Politico that "Obama did not know and does not know Khalid al-Mansour."
LaBolt said Obama doesn't have a relationship with Sutton and that "to our knowledge, no such letter was written." Obama was in Chicago, not New York, when he applied to Harvard.
Obama attended Harvard with the help of student loans, as the Sun-Times' Lynn Sweet reported in detail at one point, writing that he had $42,753 in debt.
Mansour said he admires Obama, but first heard of him when a relative sent him a copy of Obama's 2004 convention speech. He denied all the details of Sutton's story.
"Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told Politico that "Obama did not know and does not know Khalid al-Mansour.""
Well hell, that settle it then. We KNOW NOBODY associated with Obama, INCLUDING Obama himself would EVER LIE!
I'm STILL waiting for my $2,500 savings check on my heath insurance!
You do know that the report on that has not been issued, right? And there are no leaks coming from the Mueller team. So all that is an unknown.
However, Mueller is investigating the Russian interference in our election system. He was not charged with investigating Trump's team on that...unless they are shown by the evidence to be involved.
Mueller's team has so far had over 30 indictments regarding the Russia investigation, many of which are the Russian agents. It has been revealed that there are over 87 communications between the Trump Team and the Russian agents during the campaign. And we the public know of one meeting (that Trump & Jr. lied about repeatedly) between Trump Jr., Manafort, & Kushner and a Russian agent, in Trump Tower.
Several of Trump's Team have pled guilty regarding the Russia investigation. And have struck plea deals, in return for testimony.
It is obvious to anyone with a brain that the Trump team was intimately involved with the Russian interference. Whether the evidence is there, we have to wait and see.
This is an investigation on behalf of the country. It was and is not being done by the Democrats. And Democrats didn't start it. Everyone should welcome an investigation into interference by a hostile govt in our election system. That's one of the jobs of our intel agencies.
It is sad that the Trump Team, so used to mafiosa ways, didn't realize that it's not business as usual, when running for President. You can't just make calls to Russian ambassadors and agents and expect not to be caught in surveillance. Very naive not to realize that. That's how the Trump Team became involved. Because of their own actions in communications and meetings with Russian agents.
Added onto that are the obstruction of justice charges against Trump, which result directly from his own actions in naively thinking he can kill the investigation. That should tell anyone that he has something to hid. That and his repeated lies about facts regarding his involvement with Russians.
Trump owes a lot to Russia. They helped bail him out financially decades ago. And Eric Trump stated at a meeting years ago that Russians are responsible for about 65% of the money that the Trump Org. gets. Russian oligarchs belong to Putin. No oligarch in Russia exists except by the permission, and loyalty, to Putin. Trump is so involved with Russia that it is ridiculous to hear him try to pass off as reality statements like "I have nothing to do with Russia." Trump has been trying to get permission to open a hotel in Moscow for decades. And vindictive Trump is very angry that he couldn't get American loans after his five or so bankruptcies.
"Several of Trump's Team have pled guilty regarding the Russia investigation."
And not a SINGLE one of them has ANYTHING to do with RUSSIA collusion
obama DID show his birth certificate in june 2008 and facts confirmed by the HI department of health in october 2008.
for this to be on par with birtherism would require trump to release his taxes, have them confirmed by the IRS and people still demanding he release his taxes.
And we are STILL DEMANDING Obama's SCHOOL RECORDS.
"have them confirmed by the IRS"
The IRS HAS audited Trump's tax returns year AFTER YEAR AND ANYBODY COMMON SENSE WOULD KNOW if THE IRS FOUND ANYTHING ILLEGAL, THERE WOULD BE A RECORD OF IT and the left media would ave found it a long time ago.
Oh, being you brought up Obama, WHERE ARE HIS SCHOOL RECORDS? We asked for them for over 8 years and have YET to SEE them.
What is he trying to hide?
We also have yet to see Michelle's. WHY? What is SHE hiding?
Funny the media was able to find W, Bush's but, NOT Obama's.
The left media went nuts over W's grade until Kerry's were found and W had BETTER grades then Kerry then SILENCE.
Even funnier that all anyone can do to defend Trump is try to change the subject quickly.
Historical perspective is ALWAYS important.
Just pointing out the HYPOCRISY from the left.
We KNOW the left does NOT like talking about the things THEY have and have NOT done.
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