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I've been there. The people are nice, the food good, the architecture fabulous but try to talk politics with anyone and they refuse to speak out of fear. That is how good their political system works.
I've been there. The people are nice, the food good, the architecture fabulous but try to talk politics with anyone and they refuse to speak out of fear. That is how good their political system works.
Central government politics are different from municipal politics.
I mean the founding fathers didn’t want there to be campaigns either because they thought it would lead to outside influence and lead the whole thing to a popularity contest.
Modern day America is proof of this.
Nothing wrong with outside influence.
Voting always is about popularity - popularity of personality, policy, and ideals.
American politics isn't actually about personal popularity though -the EC is proof of this.
And not all state systems offer the same amount of oppression.
There is a monumental difference between North Korea and Iceland. Everyone should be able to acknowledge these differences.
All nations have the same aims(IE ends). The only difference is means.
Nations only oppress as much as it is necessary. No nation wants to kill or imprison anyone. They do so out of necessity alone.
The liberal-west is able to maintain itself without as much government force, because there are other methods/institutions which can coerce people into doing what is in the interests of the state.
Most of this comes in the form of propaganda. But the rest mostly comes from economic-extortion.
America only kills, imprisons, or oppresses when all other means of coercion have failed. Likewise does Cuba, and North Korea, and China, and Russia, and everywhere else. The moment you become an "enemy of the state", you will be dealt with, regardless of if you live in America or anywhere else.
"Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state." - Noam Chomsky
"In democratic countries, the most important private organizations are economic. Unlike secret societies, they are able to exercise their terrorism without illegality, since they do not threaten to kill their enemies, but only to starve them.” - Bertrand Russell
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in any thing else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." - Thomas Jefferson
All nations have the same aims(IE ends). The only difference is means.
Nations only oppress as much as it is necessary. No nation wants to kill or imprison anyone. They do so out of necessity alone.
The liberal-west is able to maintain itself without as much government force, because there are other methods/institutions which can coerce people into doing what is in the interests of the state.
Most of this comes in the form of propaganda. But the rest mostly comes from economic-extortion.
America only kills, imprisons, or oppresses when all other means of coercion have failed. Likewise does Cuba, and North Korea, and China, and Russia, and everywhere else. The moment you become an "enemy of the state", you will be dealt with, regardless of if you live in America or anywhere else.
"Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state." - Noam Chomsky
"In democratic countries, the most important private organizations are economic. Unlike secret societies, they are able to exercise their terrorism without illegality, since they do not threaten to kill their enemies, but only to starve them.â - Bertrand Russell
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in any thing else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." - Thomas Jefferson
Oh I completely agree.
I only bring up the point as to say not all states are equal in their violation of liberty, so it is possible to discern which ones are better and which ones are worse.
But in general states are machine of violence and are not and should not be part of the natural human order.
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