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Old 09-27-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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That is a fallacy you fell for apparently. Cuba is the 80th most populous country and the 110th largest importer in the world. Out of about 240 countries. Their biggest issue has been losing the previous support from their sugar daddy the Soviet Union. If they want to trade with us and have the sanctions lifted they know what they have to do. But a democratically elected government would mean regime change. So the people suffer because their leaders want to stay in charge.


That production would not have existed without American expertise and capital. They stole it.
1. Cuba is a small restricted country, they have a difficult time producing for the self in excess, especially due to the fact modern industrial means are limited to them thanks to being left out of the global supply chain.

If every country was communist the situation the US and Cuba were in would be reversed.

And like my first link says, in many ways Cuba has a more extensive democracy than the US, but democracy in America means private control of capital.

2. It doesn't matter, these expertise were used to exploit cuban capital. The only think that matters as far as ownership is concerned is operation and free access of labor, in both these cases, it was the Cubans.
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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1. Cuba is a small restricted country, they have a difficult time producing for the self in excess, especially due to the fact modern industrial means are limited to them thanks to being left out of the global supply chain.
They are not left out of the global supply chain. The facts prove that.

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If every country was communist the situation the US and Cuba were in would be reversed.

And like my first link says, in many ways Cuba has a more extensive democracy than the US, but democracy in America means private control of capital.

2. It doesn't matter, these expertise were used to exploit cuban capital. The only think that matters as far as ownership is concerned is operation and free access of labor, in both these cases, it was the Cubans.
For me when you sign an agreement you honor it.
Cuba has one party rule. Whoever wins the election keeps that going.
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Old 09-27-2018, 11:04 PM
 
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I know most of you listen to a lot of propaganda on Cuba and think the US needs to economically oppress the island until they gain ‘freedom’.

But in a lot of ways Cuba is fewer than we are, and a lot of its poor infrastructure and technology comes from the United States keeping Cuba out of the global supply chain.

Anyways Democracy in Cuba doesn’t revolve around the central government, but around economic institutions and local municipalities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Cuba
Feel free to move to Cuba and leave your citizenship to a legal alien! Everyone happy!
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Old 09-28-2018, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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They are not left out of the global supply chain. The facts prove that.



Cuba has one party rule. Whoever wins the election keeps that going.
Crippling sanctions and having all other major economies being structured as capitalist models tends to leave you out of the global supply chain.

Read the link, there is more to a democracy than the central government, perhaps Cuba could teach the US a thing or two.
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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All we have to do is jail the opposition and ban the free press and we can be just like them.
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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The fact you NEVER answered my question twice now makes me suspect you are in your late teens or early twenties and/or a college student that pays no or little in taxes and is brainwashed by some left wing professor.

maybe someday when you grow up and get a real job and pay taxes you will see differently.









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1. Cuba is a small restricted country, they have a difficult time producing for the self in excess, especially due to the fact modern industrial means are limited to them thanks to being left out of the global supply chain.

If every country was communist the situation the US and Cuba were in would be reversed.

And like my first link says, in many ways Cuba has a more extensive democracy than the US, but democracy in America means private control of capital.

2. It doesn't matter, these expertise were used to exploit cuban capital. The only think that matters as far as ownership is concerned is operation and free access of labor, in both these cases, it was the Cubans.
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:53 AM
 
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Cuba is a typical Latin American thugocracy run by a bunch of Fascist goons strutting around in uniforms.

They paint Revolution all over the place and throw a bunch of red stars around and that somehow fools the legions of somnambulistic dupes.

Pinochet, Castro, Somozoa, and Trujillo: They're all cut from the same mold.
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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That is what crippling sanctions by a foriegn thug does to a country.
LOL, God, your so lost
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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LOL, God, your so lost
Facts are an uncomfortable thing to deal with.
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Old 09-28-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Facts are an uncomfortable thing to deal with.
and yet when presented with real facts, all you do is dismiss....typical leftist
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