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Old 05-06-2019, 07:13 AM
 
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What do they do today with new or booster shots when the students are already in school? The school nurse has to check all the medical records of 3rd or 7th graders, etc., to see if they are up to date? If it is a large public school, that would be a daunting task. Send letters home to parents that their child needs another/new vaccine?

Edit: I worked in public schools and never heard anything about this. In fact some of the schools only had one PART TIME Nurse. Probably why staff had to be certified in First Aide and CPR. Again, follow the money. Budget cuts.

 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:17 AM
 
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What do they do today with new or booster shots when the students are already in school? The school nurse has to check all the medical records of 3rd or 7th graders, etc., to see if they are up to date? If it is a large public school, that would be a daunting task. Send letters home to parents that their child needs another/new vaccine?
Yep.

Have a friend with twins. For some reason one of their paperwork was wrong. My friend got a very threatening letter that her child would not be allowed to attend school unless she got this one particular vaccine, which she ALREADY had received.

There was some difficulty with getting the info straightened out because they are twins, and my friend actually said it would have been easier just to take her in for ANOTHER vaccine to make all the nonsense stop.

I can't provide details because I don't know what the problem was. She explained it, but it made no sense to me, as bureaucratic crap often makes no sense.
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:21 AM
 
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Yep.

No one is preventing ANYONE from getting the vaccines that they want to get. Except the prices from the pharma manufacturer and insurance un/willingness to cover.

Because ... it's a business. And they will charge/cover what they want. Unless it gets on the school schedule. Then it's a win-win for both Cha CHING.
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:21 AM
 
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You may pick and choose but there is no scientific reason to do so unless there is a medical contraindication to a vaccine.

Strange. I do not see the word vaccine used in that article at all. Maybe you could quote it for me?

It does mention measles virus infection in the discussion. I assure you there is overwhelmingly more antigen presented to the immune system by infections than vaccines.
They use the word, “Immunization”. Here’s the definition. https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...rticlekey=3909

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Immunization: Vaccination. Immunizations work by stimulating the immune system, the natural disease-fighting system of the body.
There’s also more to vaccines then just the disease they are trying to prevent. Injecting vs ingesting is different a well.


https://www.nvic.org/Doctors-Corner/...gredients.aspx
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What is even more concerning is the lack of accepted scientific data explaining whether injected aluminum interacts with other vaccine ingredients to cause harm to our children. Boyd Haley, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry at the University of Kentucky completed lab experiments showing the damaging effects on nerve cells when he exposed them to aluminum, especially in the presence of other vaccine ingredients like mercury, formaldehyde, and the antibiotic neomycin.[6] [7] His data, however, have been ignored by the scientific, medical and governmental institutions making vaccine policies.[8] The scientific community needs to be doing these experiments in the lab before shooting kids with these ingredients and declaring unequivocal vaccine safety for all children.

This article is heavily referenced so feel free to check the references.
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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Scientists? Mark Crislip wrote the article and he is one person and he is not a scientist. And if Paul Offitt has yet to put his money where his mouth is and get 100,000 vaccines in one day. If he thinks it is safe for infants, he should show us all by doing it himself, since he’s such a big man. A man who helped get the rotavirus approved and who profited from it.
Mark Crislip is a doctor and an infectious disease specialist. I’m supposed to discount his educated opinion in favor of yours? LOL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Crislip

Paul Offitt is a pediatrician specializing in infectious diseases and yet you know more than he does. Sure ya do. I guess I must have missed it when you won multiple awards for furthering public health.

About Paul A. Offit, MD - Paul Offit
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:36 AM
 
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Mark Crislip is a doctor and an infectious disease specialist. I’m supposed to discount his educated opinion in favor of yours? LOL.
You said he was a scientist and he’s not. Actually you referred to the writer as scientists, plural. Don’t know what’s up with that. Mark Crislip spends a lot of time writing garbage on the internet in addition to his qualifications.

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Paul Offitt is a pediatrician specializing in infectious diseases and yet you know more than he does. Sure ya do. I guess I must have missed it when you won multiple awards for furthering public health.

About Paul A. Offit, MD - Paul Offit
Did I say that I know more then he does? Nope. Sure didn’t. You’re moving the goal posts again. I did note his assertion that infants can handle 100,000 vaccines in one day which I think he should prove by getting them himself since it’s so safe. I also made note of the fact that he helped pave the way to getting a vaccine on the schedule that he later profited from, on the schedule. Big conflict of interest.
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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You said he was a scientist and he’s not. Actually you referred to the writer as scientists, plural. Don’t know what’s up with that. Mark Crislip spends a lot of time writing garbage on the internet in addition to his qualifications.

Did I say that I know more then he does? Nope. Sure didn’t. You’re moving the goal posts again. I did note his assertion that infants can handle 100,000 vaccines in one day which I think he should prove by getting them himself since it’s so safe. I also made note of the fact that he helped pave the way to getting a vaccine on the schedule that he later profited from, on the schedule. Big conflict of interest.
Arguing semantics and an extra S at the end of a word shows how weak your arguments truly are. In order to qualify for medical school admission, undergrads have to take a large number of science classes. To imply MDs don’t know anything about science is laughable.

So what if Dr. Offitt has profited from his vaccine? So did the guy who invented air conditioning and the Post it Note. Or is it just vaccine inventors who shouldn’t be allowed to recoup their investment of time and money?
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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Arguing semantics and an extra S at the end the of a word shows how weak your arguments truly are. In order to qualify for medical school admission, undergrads have to take a large number of science classes. To imply MDs don’t know anything about science is laughable.

So what if Dr. Offitt has profited from his vaccine? So did the guy who invented air conditioning and the Post it Note. Or is it just vaccine inventors who shouldn’t be allowed to recoup their investment of time and money?
I pointed it out, yet you’re the one who chose to argue about it and continue to argue about it. Even with a lot of science classes, he’s still not a scientist. Keep arguing though and changing the goal posts and then blaming me.

Paul Offit didn’t just profit from a vaccine, he was on the advisory comittee that voted to get the vaccine that he profited from on the schedule. Do you want to volunteer to get 100,000 vaccines a day and prove that he’s right?
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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You said he was a scientist and he’s not. Actually you referred to the writer as scientists, plural. Don’t know what’s up with that. Mark Crislip spends a lot of time writing garbage on the internet in addition to his qualifications.

Did I say that I know more then he does? Nope. Sure didn’t. You’re moving the goal posts again. I did note his assertion that infants can handle 100,000 vaccines in one day which I think he should prove by getting them himself since it’s so safe. I also made note of the fact that he helped pave the way to getting a vaccine on the schedule that he later profited from, on the schedule. Big conflict of interest.
It's a trained skill to deflect from the actual topic being discussed.
 
Old 05-06-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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I pointed it out, yet you’re the one who chose to argue about it and continue to argue about it. Even with a lot of science classes, he’s still not a scientist. Keep arguing though and changing the goal posts and then blaming me.

Paul Offit didn’t just profit from a vaccine, he was on the advisory comittee that voted to get the vaccine that he profited from on the schedule. Do you want to volunteer to get 100,000 vaccines a day and prove that he’s right?
Tomato, tomahto. That’s the substance of your argument on Dr. Crislip’s opinion. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

Per the CDC update this morning: Measles cases for 2019 are now up to 764. Measles have been reported in 23 states and outbreaks are up to 9.
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