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Old 05-12-2019, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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LOL
This is exactly why people keep calling democrats the party of STUPID
it’s also indicative and proof of our education in this country dropping to one of the lowest in the industrialized world.
I agree. Watching Rachael Maddow melt was funny.

 
Old 05-12-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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The only reason that Trump might win again is if the Democrats field another terrible candidate like they did last time.

Hillary Clinton was already hated by many before she even started her election campaign, and candidates such as Elizabeth Warren are equally disliked, whilst many middle Americans don't like the prospect of Bernie Sanders and his left wing agenda.
Bernie was well received in the midwest. It was the Coastal areas that disliked Bernie sanders for his anti corporatists leaning, he did not support black lives matter thus loosing black support, and he did not favor womens issues compared to that of Hillary Clinton. Bernie was not that different from trump when it came to trade agreements and helping to uplift middle America.
 
Old 05-12-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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I'm in agreement. Yes their should be some sort of barrier, but Trump is taking the wall stuff too far. Also trump wants to limit immigration. Than the US must leave the sovriegnty of other nations alone via explanation, regime change, election meddling and embargos.
Nothing wrong with limiting immigration. Otherwise, we will have a free-for-all where uneducated, illiterate people dependent on American taxpayers for financial support swamp the system, and ultimately crash the economy. We thus need to limit immigration to two groups:

1) Adults over age 18 who have a high school diploma or more, along with their minor children, who have a marketable skill and can demonstrate the ability to support themselves and their families

2) Anyone else, failing the above requirement, who fulfills the condition of asylum: persecution based on religion or political position

Obviously, nobody with a communicable disease or any past criminal record will be allowed to immigrate here.
 
Old 05-12-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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Bernie was well received in the midwest. It was the Coastal areas that disliked Bernie sanders for his anti corporatists leaning, he did not support black lives matter thus loosing black support, and he did not favor womens rights. Bernie was not that different from trump when it came to trade agreements and helping to uplift middle America.
Was he the one who said "All Lives Matter," and black activities drove him off the stage?
 
Old 05-12-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Was he the one who said "All Lives Matter," and black activities drove him off the stage?
Yep.
 
Old 05-12-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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The OP’s argument boils down to Trump will win due to the economy and the festering anger of his base.
 
Old 05-12-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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The OP’s argument boils down to Trump will win due to the economy and the festering anger of his base.
Exactly. They keep talking about the Dems coming up with excuses on why they will win in 2020 yet they are doing the same about Trump winning in 2020
 
Old 05-12-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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1. Trump's economy so far is reaping the rewards of Obama's work, although he refuses credit that, of course. It remains to be seen what will happen with Trump's own policies, but the one definite thing is that Trump creates uncertainty, which is usually not good for economies.

One could argue if it was Obama's actions that led to the great economy we are having nor or if was Trump's action with tax cuts until the cows come home, but the simple fact of the matter is this.

1. If on Nov 4, 2020 the economy is tanking they will blame Trump and not Obama and will throw him out.
2. On the other hand if the economy remains strong and unemployment is low, they will give the credit to Trump and not Obama's policies from the past, and reelect Trump.
 
Old 05-12-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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I'm in agreement. Yes their should be some sort of barrier, but Trump is taking the wall stuff too far. Also trump wants to limit immigration. Than the US must leave the sovriegnty of other nations alone via explanation, regime change, election meddling and embargos.
How is Trump taking the wall too far? He merely wants the 700 miles already approved by congress back in 2006 fixed as it wasn't built according to specs. He also wants an additional 300 miles built on the other porous areas of the border. These types of walls have already proven to be a very effective deterrant to illegal entry.

I think we should limit legal immigration to the numbers we actually need and that will be a benefit to our country not a burden. Who would have a problem with that?
 
Old 05-12-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: USA
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What country did Obama destroy? And Trump has quite a few sexual misconduct claims including perving on the Miss Teen USA contestants, but he never raped anyone...
The perfect Peace prize winner, all but destroyed Libya, in his quest to depose their President, tried to do the same in Syria resulting in 10s of thousands in deaths and 5 million in diaspora. Claimed victory in Iraq. Add to that, his use of a billion dollars in cruise missiles resulting in 100s of Innocents killed. This was all after his appology tour of the middle east saying he would be a more sympathetic American president.

The guy all but destroys 2 Muslim countries after pledging he would be a kinder, more fair, friend to Muslims in the middle east. Guess the name "Barrack Hussein Obama" means "destroyer of Muslims" in Arabic. Yeah, Trump is a more peaceful president, by far, then the biggest Peace prize winner in history.
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