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Old 05-28-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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You'll find something bad about them right away, no matter what. Best to isolate yourself from everyone. You are better off without them, and they are better off without you since they have most likely already determined you are bad, of course...
Thank you!
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Old 05-28-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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I think it does show two things:

1. Inability of the right wing to understand that not everyone agrees that a laisse faire system of low taxes and less government regulation is a good thing. This is something conservatives just go nuts over. They think everyone ought to see that this is a "superior system" and when someone tries to argue with that they become quite upset. Its usually when the adjectives like "socialist, lib-ur-al, communist" start to flow from their lips because many cannot construct a rational retort.

2. Contempt for black people. I think what really gets them are the numbers. Even Hillary carried 90% of the black vote. Doug Jones down in Alabama carried something on the order of the votes of 99% of all black women living in Alabama in the special election for the US Senate. What is interesting is that many political parties would act differently when they got these results. Instead of blaming black people they would look at their agenda and at least try to soften certain parts of it. For example, simply acknowledging racism is a real thing would go a long ways. Yet, many republicans today actually believe the only racism in the country is directed at white people.
Laissez faire works in some situations, not in others. For Black people, lack of laissez-faire economics isn't the contributor to the problems they have had.

I would agree with you that contempt for Blacks a big fact. Not the only factor, but a big one. It doesn't surprise me that some have not asked "how can we make the GOP more appealing to Black Americans". Now, it depends. Mike Huckabee showed he should appeal to the Black vote. John Kasich showed he could do it. However, here in Georgia where I live, governor Brian Kemp has a history of voter suppression and appeals to a more "good old boy" brand of conservatism. Brian Kemp even said that it worried him that there were people helping other people register to vote. In short, Kemp didn't want MORE people to vote. He wanted fewer people to vote. And I think there might be more people who feel this way.
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Old 05-28-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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If anyone judges everyone in Pittsburgh from some comments made by me in this thread they are a fool.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/06/bet-...P6Va0-V1FXbldw
We can say the same of you. You judging Black people by the very worst of Blacks, you aren't any better. And it isn't just your comments. I've noticed a pattern coming from a few more persons from the Pittsburgh area. But just the same, you are proving to be no better. I can say that you are a fool as well.


And I took a good look at that link. Outdated link. Here is more current stuff.

Black unemployment on the rise.
https://www.latimes.com/business/hil...521-story.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/pedroda...laying-a-role/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.b4c99b394db3
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Old 05-28-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Dixiecrats aren't Democrats. The descendants of slave owners and the Confederacy vote Republican now
Dixiecrats broke off from the Democrats.
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Old 05-28-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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"Roving white supremacists" are the people who should be ( & have frankly admitted to being ) most appreciative for no longer having to be so subtle. Thank the Gods they're a minuscule group.
And even when white supremacists are being bold, they try to mix in some subtleness. The point is confusion.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:02 PM
 
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It's funny, and sad at the same time. We have a time period in U.S. history when this happened. Jim Crow. And slavery too.

It wasn't this desperate back in 2004. This crap started in 2008, and has recently become more bold in 2012.
I think this crap started a lot earlier than 2008:

Jim Crow Was Bad, But The Civil Rights Act Is Worse
Being Libertarian

https://beinglibertarian.com/jim-cro...hts-act-worse/
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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I think this crap started a lot earlier than 2008:

Jim Crow Was Bad, But The Civil Rights Act Is Worse
Being Libertarian

https://beinglibertarian.com/jim-cro...hts-act-worse/
I’ve argued for years that the Civil Rights Act has enraged Conservatives and Libertarians for years. They absolutely abhor it.

Their position always was that African Americans should simply wait for whites to change their attitudes towards race. Blacks should just keep being highly obsequious and servile and prove to whites that we deserve equal protection under the law. Nevermind our sacrifices and our toil In helping to build and defend this nation.

I have ZERO patience for that argument. I refuse to even consider it. It’s easy to say that we should’ve waited while YOU enjoy the rights of citizenship.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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I’ve argued for years that the Civil Rights Act has enraged Conservatives and Libertarians for years. They absolutely abhor it.

Their position always was that African Americans should simply wait for whites to change their attitudes towards race. Blacks should just keep being highly obsequious and servile and prove to whites that we deserve equal protection under the law. Nevermind our sacrifices and our toil In helping to build and defend this nation.

I have ZERO patience for that argument. I refuse to even consider it. It’s easy to say that we should’ve waited while YOU enjoy the rights of citizenship.
Agree it's a ridiculous argument. They said the same thing about the Civil Rights Act of 1875:

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The Civil Rights Act of 1875 sometimes called the Enforcement Act or the Force Act, was a United States federal law enacted during the Reconstruction era in response to civil rights violations against African Americans. The bill was passed by the 43rd United States Congress and signed into law by President Ulysses S. Grant on March 1, 1875.

The act was designed to "protect all citizens in their civil and legal rights", providing for equal treatment in public accommodations and public transportation and prohibiting exclusion from jury service. It was originally drafted by Senator Charles Sumner in 1870, but was not passed until shortly after Sumner's death in 1875. The law was not effectively enforced, partly because President Grant had favored different measures to help him suppress election-related violence against blacks and Republicans in the South.

The Reconstruction era ended with the resolution of the 1876 presidential election, and the Civil Rights Act of 1875 was the last federal civil rights law enacted until the passage of Civil Rights Act of 1957. In 1883, the Supreme Court ruled in the Civil Rights Cases that the public accommodation sections of the act were unconstitutional, saying Congress was not afforded control over private persons or corporations under the Equal Protection Clause. Parts of the Civil Rights Act of 1875 were later re-adopted in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Civil Rights Act of 1968, both of which cited the Commerce Clause as the source of Congress's power to regulate private actors.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civi...ts_Act_of_1875
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I think this crap started a lot earlier than 2008:

Jim Crow Was Bad, But The Civil Rights Act Is Worse
Being Libertarian

https://beinglibertarian.com/jim-cro...hts-act-worse/
Oh, there was a thread about libertarians saying that natural law, property rights and the free market should trump anti-discrimination legislation a year back. Wasn't having any of that.
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Old 05-28-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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Oh, there was a thread about libertarians saying that natural law, property rights and the free market should trump anti-discrimination legislation a year back. Wasn't having any of that.
And that is the thing. The free market and natural law didn't dismantle Jim Crow. Force dismantled it. "Big Government" as some people call it, took Jim Crow down. Sometimes it takes force.
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