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I agree 100% that this is not Trumps fault. I would assign MORE of the blame to the Right (Trickle down, Reaganism, etc.) and "each man is an island" and "yes, we have equal opportunity" types then I would to the more moderate folks who realize we are all in this together.....
BUT, the big deal here is that Trump appealed to - and won with - those very people (the forgotten man)....the worst off workers....but saying things would change.
But, by ANY measure he has doubled or tripled down on every policy which will ruin them. From health care to low wages to more pollution to making sure money goes to the very wealthy....he is a wet dream for the top 5% ..or really the top 1% or .1%.
Financially, that is. In terms of Society he has done zero to set good examples and, in fact, fosters hate and divisiveness, etc.
In other words...he's largely good for nothing except for those who cheer when others fail...
I would assign MORE of the blame to the Right ....
That's because in typical Liberal fashion you refuse to lay blame where it belongs, which is on the people whose misery is self-induced.
Giving people more of other people's money doesn't make those people more intelligent, or make them stop abusing their spouse or children or committing crimes or getting drunk or stoned or anything else.
Cincinnati State is $158/credit hour. $3,792 for one year. Everyone in poverty automatically qualifies for a combined Pell Grant/Ohio Educational Opportunity Grant of $6,095/year.
Do the math:
$6,095
$3,792 less
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$2,303 per year for books and anything else, and they never have to pay that money back.
So, what apologetic excuses are you going to make for them now?
Are you going to manufacture some kind of Right-wing conspiracy that prevents those people from taking advantage of any one of the thousands of opportunities available to them?
That's because in typical Liberal fashion you refuse to lay blame where it belongs, which is on the people whose misery is self-induced.
Giving people more of other people's money doesn't make those people more intelligent, or make them stop abusing their spouse or children or committing crimes or getting drunk or stoned or anything else.
Cincinnati State is $158/credit hour. $3,792 for one year. Everyone in poverty automatically qualifies for a combined Pell Grant/Ohio Educational Opportunity Grant of $6,095/year.
Do the math:
$6,095
$3,792 less
--------
$2,303 per year for books and anything else, and they never have to pay that money back.
So, what apologetic excuses are you going to make for them now?
Are you going to manufacture some kind of Right-wing conspiracy that prevents those people from taking advantage of any one of the thousands of opportunities available to them?
sounds like a lot of work to them. They're still too lazy to register to vote ...then complain.
I agree 100% that this is not Trumps fault. I would assign MORE of the blame to the Right (Trickle down, Reaganism, etc.) and "each man is an island" and "yes, we have equal opportunity" types then I would to the more moderate folks who realize we are all in this together.....
BUT, the big deal here is that Trump appealed to - and won with - those very people (the forgotten man)....the worst off workers....but saying things would change.
But, by ANY measure he has doubled or tripled down on every policy which will ruin them. From health care to low wages to more pollution to making sure money goes to the very wealthy....he is a wet dream for the top 5% ..or really the top 1% or .1%.
Financially, that is. In terms of Society he has done zero to set good examples and, in fact, fosters hate and divisiveness, etc.
In other words...he's largely good for nothing except for those who cheer when others fail...
Why would you assign blame to a political party?? When it's all about people who fail at personal finances and a lack of family planning. What about the black community and their problems with teen pregnancies and producing single mothers??? Or a whole bunch of Americans who want to live large and style themselves like their favorite celebrity, even though they can't afford to? How is wanting to be like the Khardasians, the fault of the GOP party?
That's because in typical Liberal fashion you refuse to lay blame where it belongs, which is on the people whose misery is self-induced.
Giving people more of other people's money doesn't make those people more intelligent, or make them stop abusing their spouse or children or committing crimes or getting drunk or stoned or anything else.
Cincinnati State is $158/credit hour. $3,792 for one year. Everyone in poverty automatically qualifies for a combined Pell Grant/Ohio Educational Opportunity Grant of $6,095/year.
Do the math:
$6,095
$3,792 less
--------
$2,303 per year for books and anything else, and they never have to pay that money back.
So, what apologetic excuses are you going to make for them now?
Are you going to manufacture some kind of Right-wing conspiracy that prevents those people from taking advantage of any one of the thousands of opportunities available to them?
It's too much work for the lazy to take advantage of. They'd rather complain.
That's because in typical Liberal fashion you refuse to lay blame where it belongs, which is on the people whose misery is self-induced.
Are you going to manufacture some kind of Right-wing conspiracy that prevents those people from taking advantage of any one of the thousands of opportunities available to them?
We don't have to manufacture it - reality rears it's ugly head constantly. For example, that conspiracy you refer to made sure that private banks took over a lot of student loans and were able to charge higher rates and "bet on" risky folks...to either indebt them or have the taxpayer on the hook.
That conspiracy helped greatly to cause the Great Recession, which snatched opportunities out of the hands of many millions of college grads who then had to wait tables with their grad degree (and pay the loans)....because the economy failed (while the Foxes were given reign over the chickens)....
For decades, stories like this have been in the news - have you missed them?
"When President Trump took office in 2016, his first budget proposed a $3.2 billion reduction in Pell Grant funding"
(2005)
"Students across the nation face a reduction in financial aid next school year due to cuts in the national Pell Grant program."
You are right - but I must correct you that it is not a Conspiracy. It is GOP Policy. About 1/2 of it is done right out in the open and the other 1/2 behind closed doors, but still traceable.....
I'm sure you believe that cutting grants and funding and Great Recessions are positive moves toward giving more opportunities to the poor and middle class. I simply don't agree with you. We differ. Fine.
Why would you assign blame to a political party?? When it's all about people who fail at personal finances and a lack of family planning. What about the black community and their problems with teen pregnancies and producing single mothers??? Or a whole bunch of Americans who want to live large and style themselves like their favorite celebrity, even though they can't afford to? How is wanting to be like the Khardasians, the fault of the GOP party?
Please see the post above. One political party looks at college and education more as a profit center or something they can cut, cut,cut...so, yes, in that sense there is a difference in philosophy. A big one, actually.....
If you don't know about it and haven't been keeping up on it for decades as I have, I'm surely not going to convince you in a forum post. But all the news and policies and budgets are out there for you to research if you care about the truth.
"President Bush wants to fashion several new education programs this year, including pricey items central to his oft-touted high school agenda (vo-tech, etc.) . But he also is proposing for the first time since he entered the White House to cut the overall budget of the U.S. Department of Education."
These are pennies....at the very same time he was giving TRILLIONS in tax cuts and for the wars.
If that's the type of policy you support, so be it. I don't.
"Feb 8, 2005 - The budget sets aside about $18 billion for Pell Grants, a 45 percent ... cut "
"FISCAL YEAR 2007 BUDGET: Education Funding Cut by $2.1 Billion; "
"In 2010, funding for education programs would be cut 14 percent below the 2005 level adjusted for inflation. These cuts would not spare K-12 education programs. Overall funding for the major elementary and secondary education programs — Education for the Disadvantaged, Special Education funding, School Improvement programs, and Impact Aid — would be reduced by $11.5 billion over the 2006-2010 period and by $4.6 billion, or 12 percent, in 2010 alone."
I hope y'all enjoyed your tax cut and I stand 100% by my OP and the fact that things are not getting better for the forgotten man.
Now, if y'all want to continue to claim that the Mountain People are ignorant and lazy...so be it. I say if they are that way it is due to lack of our investment in them.
Why would you assign blame to a political party?? When it's all about people who fail at personal finances and a lack of family planning. What about the black community and their problems with teen pregnancies and producing single mothers??? Or a whole bunch of Americans who want to live large and style themselves like their favorite celebrity, even though they can't afford to? How is wanting to be like the Khardasians, the fault of the GOP party?
Please see the post above. One political party looks at college and education more as a profit center or something they can cut, cut,cut...so, yes, in that sense there is a difference in philosophy. A big one, actually.....
Why would you assign blame to a political party?? When it's all about people who fail at personal finances and a lack of family planning. What about the black community and their problems with teen pregnancies and producing single mothers??? Or a whole bunch of Americans who want to live large and style themselves like their favorite celebrity, even though they can't afford to? How is wanting to be like the Khardasians, the fault of the GOP party?
I would put much of the problems the black communities face on policies that have actively targeted their young black males.
Since the 70-80s, young black men have been incarcerated more often then white men, for the same crimes, getting longer sentences then white men for the same crimes and criminalizing drugs that poor people use harder, then what wealthier people abuse.
It has created 2-3 generations of young black men with ruined financial, work and educational opportunities, compared to young white men that never saw the inside of a cell.. even though they committed the same crime.
This again produces broken families, missing fathers, lower opportunities for getting better jobs, voting, schooling etc etc..
Redlining, where black minority parts of towns that did not recive public money to keep things running or fixing roads, water, lower quality schools etc etc etc...
The GOP loves to paint the black community as a God loving, family centered minority that where completely destroyed by the Democrats welfare. The GOP is claiming suddenly every black family realized they could finally just be lazy, sleep around and live of the hard working white man by giving birth to more and more kids for more money... Sounds Racist!
Without mentioning how the black community was heavily targeted by unfavorable policies that hit the black minorities far harder and affected them more then any white community.
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