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View Poll Results: What say you?
Treason 45 31.69%
Obstruction 71 50.00%
Acceptable 25 17.61%
Not sure 1 0.70%
Voters: 142. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-13-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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It’s following the law.

Immigration enforcement is the job of the feds. Local authorities are not given budget nor power to deal with it.

It becomes an issue only when they start actively warning them of ICE raids and such.
Trump did that this past week.
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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The feds cannot compel states to enforce immigration law. he feds cannot compel states to enforce immigration law. What don’t you get about that?
"the feds cannot compel states to enforce immigration law."

No ONE has claimed otherwise, so why bring it up for the umpteenth time?

It is ILLEGAL to aid and abet in ANY FASHION illegal aliens.

sanctuary city

noun
noun: sanctuary city; plural noun: sanctuary cities

(in North America) a city whose municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law."

What don’t you get about that?

Looks like you want to cheery pick what laws to follow and not.

I THINK Trump should start bringing charges against those who have created the sanctuary places.
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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This is exactly what they are doing. Lori Lightfoot is doing this in Chicago.
This is obstruction of Federal Law. If they don't agree with catching and/or deporting ILLEGAL ALIENS (there is no such thing as undocumented immigrant as immigration is a legal process that requires, guess what? DOCUMENTS) then they should work to change Federal Law, not obstruct the law. Then we become a society of anarchists.
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:46 AM
 
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This is going on in liberal areas and in NJ. Our AG told county sheriffs and local law enforcement not to work with ICE. Is this treason? Obstruction of justice? Or is it acceptable?
Where’s the option for perfectly legal?

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That would seem to apply as would Sedition, which is also rarely prosecuted.

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent towards, or resistance against established authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interest of sedition.

The real question is “should any government official be allowed to hold office after taking an Oath to support and Defend the Laws and Constitution” after they advocate and support braking the LAW?”

I say NO, they should resign. We can prosecute them for braking their Oath of Office, but we should be able to remove them from that office. They work for us and we deserve better.
You’re 100% wrong. On everything.

The states don’t have to enforce federal laws. They don’t have to work with ICE. State law enforcements only concern is state law.

The sheriff is the highest ranking law enforcement official in their counties. They outrank Feds.

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This is obstruction of Federal Law. If they don't agree with catching and/or deporting ILLEGAL ALIENS (there is no such thing as undocumented immigrant as immigration is a legal process that requires, guess what? DOCUMENTS) then they should work to change Federal Law, not obstruct the law. Then we become a society of anarchists.


No, we’re a society without a central government. The whole small government... states rights... that moron “conservatives” carry on about unless it’s serves their purpose... then they’re all for it...

Derka durr.
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:50 AM
 
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I think this latest shenanigans by the Democrats just locks in the WIN for Trump!
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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No, we’re a society without a central government. The whole small government... states rights... that moron “conservatives” carry on about unless it’s serves their purpose... then they’re all for it...

Derka durr.
The States all agreed to abide by Federal Law when they became states. So, work to change the law, not obstruct it. Should the states also ignore Federal Environmental Law? Should they be able to ignore the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and all the others?

Now, who is the MORON?
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:26 AM
 
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The States all agreed to abide by Federal Law when they became states. So, work to change the law, not obstruct it. Should the states also ignore Federal Environmental Law? Should they be able to ignore the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and all the others?

Now, who is the MORON?
Working with ICE isn’t covered by any amendment.

They can’t work against the Feds, but they also don’t have to help them. That’s plain as day.

Derka durr.
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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This is going on in liberal areas and in NJ. Our AG told county sheriffs and local law enforcement not to work with ICE. Is this treason? Obstruction of justice? Or is it acceptable?
He's not doing his job, and he is instructing them not to do their job, but to "aid and abet" criminals.
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:57 AM
 
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He's not doing his job, and he is instructing them not to do their job, but to "aid and abet" criminals.
Legality is all about exactly what is said.

You're inferring the meaning, not comprehending explicit statements.
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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If I aid & abet, as well as advise a fugitive on how to avoid capture, am I committing a crime? If yes, then liberal dems who have zero regard for our immigration laws should be prosecuted the same way I would be.
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