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Old 10-13-2019, 01:43 PM
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So was there a second cop on the scene?

This video still appears to be taken from behind the shooter cop's shoulder - I can't see this still could come from the cop's own body cam.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/13/76989...structure-call
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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None of my business, but why was she playing video games with her eight year old nephew at 2 a.m.?
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I thought about that too. It's a long holiday weekend and this was Saturday early morning . . . so.

But I agree, this isn't what mainstream families do. She's the aunt, not the mother also. So she may have a completely different standard of care.

Mark Klaas, whose daughter was a victim of kidnapping and has gone on to advocate for victim families, said often when a tragedy occurs the "snapshot" of the family directly preceding the event looks "odd", although they were innocent.
Does it matter?
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:54 PM
 
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Also courtesy of The Kinks:


Got no privacy, got no liberty, 'cause the 20th century people took it all away from me.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:54 PM
 
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None of my business, but why was she playing video games with her eight year old nephew at 2 a.m.?
Being an indulgent grandmother/ aunt on a weekend....we are allowed to do so without getting shot.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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I thought about that too. It's a long holiday weekend and this was Saturday early morning . . . so.

But I agree, this isn't what mainstream families do. She's the aunt, not the mother also. So she may have a completely different standard of care.

Mark Klaas, whose daughter was a victim of kidnapping and has gone on to advocate for victim families, said often when a tragedy occurs the "snapshot" of the family directly preceding the event looks "odd", although they were innocent.
Yeah, maybe he had a fever or just woke up early. Doesn't really matter.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:01 PM
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Does it matter?
No, it doesn't. That's what I'm saying. It's a detail, but it's not an important piece of information.

And that's why I referenced Mark Klaas, who noted that somehow, this is so frequently the case. When a family becomes a victim of a tragedy, there's often a "snapshot" of that family that leads to concerns, but when they're checked out, they can be dismissed.

Interesting that I've noticed that too myself. Often there's some detail that's eye-catching but doesn't lead to the family being responsible for the incident that happens to them.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:39 PM
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I have a strange observation.

It seems to me that public outrage from the black community is directly related to the justifiability of a shooting.

So if a shooting appears justified, the community erupts in fury.

In this case, and with Botham Jean, I'm not sensing any fury, or even all that much interest except by the media.

With Botham Jean and this young woman, both were promising, middle class people with an education minding their own business and were needlessly gunned down in their homes. Really, IMHO, a cause for outrage.

I know Fort Worth LE were expecting rioting, but that didn't happen.

And outside of a few leaders expressing dismay, all seems quiet now.

Why is that? I thought the world was going to end when Michael Brown was shot, for threatening an officer's safety after robbing a convenience store.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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Hang him for murder.

Or, could we possibly extend to the officer the same rights the rest of us enjoy: innocent until proven guilty?
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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Or, could we possibly extend to the officer the same rights the rest of us enjoy: innocent until proven guilty?
I watched the bodycam footage. There can be NO excuse.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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Or, could we possibly extend to the officer the same rights the rest of us enjoy: innocent until proven guilty?
The only people required to do that are the jury that hopefully has the responsibility of trying him. The rest of us can say whatever we want about his conduct.
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