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Old 10-13-2019, 04:23 PM
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The Police Association has issued a statement. I guess the cop now knows what the underside of a bus looks like.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/lo...7-fff6e3690f5d
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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Maybe in these "boom towns" the unemployment rate is low and its hard to really find quality people who want to do police work. I mean.....it is a tough job and it does get a bad rap. Why would you want such a job if there are thousands of other jobs you can have? There is a certain personality type, I believe, that are attracted to policing....and its sometimes not a good personality trait for policing.



I think police should be paid more, especially in big cities with high crime rates, and put through greater filters for service.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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I don't know details. Did the police officer follow protocol in doing a welfare check? Was Atatiana Jefferson pointing a gun at the officer?
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:42 PM
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Maybe in these "boom towns" the unemployment rate is low and its hard to really find quality people who want to do police work. I mean.....it is a tough job and it does get a bad rap. Why would you want such a job if there are thousands of other jobs you can have? There is a certain personality type, I believe, that are attracted to policing....and its sometimes not a good personality trait for policing.



I think police should be paid more, especially in big cities with high crime rates, and put through greater filters for service.
I agree with what you said, but I'm surprised at his decision making process.

(Not the shooting part, the way he approached a "check welfare call").

Why would you approach it that way? Seems really odd - surely his training didn't support that kind of investigation - in the dark - in response to a "check welfare" call.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:44 PM
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I don't know details. Did the police officer follow protocol in doing a welfare check? Was Atatiana Jefferson pointing a gun at the officer?
That's sort of what I just posted about.

I can't IMAGINE that's protocol for a "check welfare" call. I've made those calls, on an elderly relative when she wasn't answering her phone for a couple days, and I'm certain they went up to the door and knocked, didn't creep around the property and look in with a flashlight.

I don't know if she was holding a gun - but I certainly wouldn't blame her if she was. Outside it was dark, and what she must have seen was someone pointing a flashlight into the back of her home at 2:30 a.m.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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What a tragedy.. And that poor nephew, who had to see it.

But what does this have to do with politics? There are about 2 million citizen-police encounters a year in which they save thousands of lives.. I applaud them for doing a dangerous and thankless job, particularly since they are being demonized by the left, but it really isn't a politics issue.
"But what does this have to do with politics?....I applaud police....particularly since they are being demonized by the left....it really isn't a politics issue"

Says the partisan poster as she inserts politics into the thread
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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That's sort of what I just posted about.

I can't IMAGINE that's protocol for a "check welfare" call. I've made those calls, on an elderly relative when she wasn't answering her phone for a couple days, and I'm certain they went up to the door and knocked, didn't creep around the property and look in with a flashlight.

I don't know if she was holding a gun - but I certainly wouldn't blame her if she was. Outside it was dark, and what she must have seen was someone pointing a flashlight into the back of her home at 2:30 a.m.
Unedited body cam video will be helpful in this case. I think police officers know to announce that they are police officers.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:57 PM
 
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Not the best example. This woman might be still alive had she not had a gun.
Has it been in any article that she had a gun? I've seen this repeated a couple of times in the thread but don't remember reading it.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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What a tragedy.. And that poor nephew, who had to see it.

But what does this have to do with politics? There are about 2 million citizen-police encounters a year in which they save thousands of lives.. I applaud them for doing a dangerous and thankless job, particularly since they are being demonized by the left, but it really isn't a politics issue.
People always forget that the forum is Politics and Other Controversies.

The way people are being *policed* these days is quite controversial. Would you agree?
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:06 PM
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Something else that needs to be discussed, after all the dust settles.

It seems Dallas/Fort Worth Police are so afraid of young black people that they feel threatened enough - by their very presence if it's unexpected - to shoot them.

That's a discussion that needs to happen. I don't know what the solution would be - these two were in their own homes and didn't even have a chance to react before they were shot.

We've had the public discussions and education about how to act non-threatening around cops, how to comply so no one gets hurt, but what do we do here?

What is clear - to me - is these two were terrified by the nonthreatening presence of a young black adult when they were startled to see one.
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