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Well your last part is something that you guys have manufactured nowhere has the president or anyone on his staff ever said that he was trying to get diplomatic favors or that it was politically motivated to get Joe Biden simply because he was a distant chance of being presidential candidate. The president was very clear it was Joe Biden who admitted on camera to Blackmail in the Ukraine withholding 1.5 billion dollars unless they fired a prosecutor who was investigating the company that Joe Biden's son had sat on the board of directors of
Trump was very 'clear' yes. All I can say here is to research - and not Hannity et al. - then make up your own mind. If you want to save time with links, there are plenty of threads here discussing it in great detail. At a start, you'll probably want to find the uncut version of the Council on Foreign Relations video. Other than that, the thread topic is Trump corruption.
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
Even Democrats have been saying that it looks pretty fishy and a little bit corrupt that the vice president's son would get sweet deals in the Ukraine and China two of the countries that President Obama put Joe Biden in charge of conducting u.s. foreign affairs with
Corrupt maybe but not according to Ukraine (or for that matter, how such crap works here in the United States) illegal.
Nothing is being " proven correct"
All that is being said is perceived as being important, and it actually is not very important at all.
" high crimes and misdemeanors" Remember that ?
Let me know when that enters the picture.
That's the way Democrats want it. No due process, trial by the media, no cross examination , just whatever they say.
They will fail.
"High Crimes and Misdemeanors" is entirely undefined in the Constitution, if you have read it. HC&D are whatever Congress decides they are.
"Due process" comes during the trial phase, not during the discovery. So far, no charges have been brought that would require due process or cross examination - only the testimony of witnesses congerning the allegations. The House Judiciary Committee serves in impeachment cases like a Grand Jury, and proceedings are not public.
Good grief man I was just being facetious of course it's not been off-limits to investigate him since 1974 I was just joking around. Don't you guys have any sense of humor? My point is that you guys are claiming that "we cannot investigate Biden for possible corruption while he was vice president because gee golly wow he's running for president."
When has it been improper to investigate somebody for possible corruption or criminal actions just because they're running for political office? By the way Trump is running for political office but you have no problem with the Democrats investigating him
It's not. DOJ, FBI, CIA, and the State Department are all at the president's disposal. If he had gone through channels and formally requested an investigation instead of trying to wing it using Giuliani, who is not connected with the government, he might not have the problems he does now.
Investigate away. If you can prove Biden and his son committed crimes, lock them both up.
Mulvaney never uttered the words quid pro quo so you're all full of crap. All that Mulvaney said was that they wanted to ensure that the Ukraine would investigate election interference in 2016 I thought that was something that the Democrats wanted to see investigated as much as anybody else, now all of a sudden, to ask that we get cooperation to investigate that, is a quid pro quo? You guys are nuts
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