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Old 10-27-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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Yea ok...because it had nothing to do with Jews and a whole country was carved out for them after.
To leave average blacks out of the conversation as well as lack of black participation in most forums, steer the conversation to comparisons with Jews or whatever although no other group shares anything much in common with the black experience. Just another reason that no matter what, being black equals being the outsider, almost always.
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:02 PM
 
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Why do you deserve freedoms, created by the sacrifices of peoples long before your family arrived here, that you had nothing to do with creating? Why did your ancestors not stay where they were and sacrifice to create the freedom that they came here to enjoy, which were from the sacrifices of others?

Ever think of it like that? What are you getting today, from the past, that you had nothing to do with creating?
How many of your family members were in the military?
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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Life is like an endless relay race. The gun went off, to start this race in America, hundreds of year ago. I hope you are intelligent enough to understand what a relay race is. If not, its a race of "teams" around an oval track. One member each team starts at an equal position when the gun goes off. They then run a set distance and pass the baton to the next member of the team. The first team that gets its member past the finish line wins.

In life, there is no equal starting point, in this American relay. In life, there is no known "finish line" in this American relay. In life, each generation starts running from where the previous generation that handed them the baton existed in the race. It's important to note that there is no FRESH START. There is no avoiding starting from whence your previous generation existed. If they are behind, the next generation inherits that deficit. Changes in rules or laws during the race does not reset all the teams back to equal starts from the point of the rule or change in laws. Rules are changed, but your position in the race does not get adjusted.

If things were unfair in the past to a team and the team is running behind as a result, they can theoretically NEVER catch up if they are EQUAL to those teams in front of them. The only way to catch or pass those in front is if you are actually SUPERIOR to them and or THEY ARE SLACKING. What a reparations effort would or should attempt is to remove the inherited deficit that the team accrued during a period where the team was treated unfairly.

Right now, white people are enjoying a lead born from the unfairness of others in the past. Black people are suffering a deficit born from the unfairness to blacks in the past. Boosting blacks up does not change the absolute position of whites, only the RELATIVE position of whites. In other words, whites would not be hurt in an absolute metric....only in the relative metric of BEING OVER/AHEAD of BLACKS.
but in this race the whites are now running without shoes and your running with track spikes...….You were given that "extra" advantage way back by Johnson...……….
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:10 PM
 
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If they fought in WWII, they had access to the GI Bill to better themselves. Whose fault is it that they didn't? Conversely, many black veterans were deliberately blocked from using this resource. Whose fault was that?
Most blacks did not take part in combat either...…….
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:10 PM
 
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but in this race the whites are now running without shoes and your running with track spikes...….You were given that "extra" advantage way back by Johnson...……….
Wait what?

What extra advantage was given African-Americans that whites weren’t given?
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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but in this race the whites are now running without shoes and your running with track spikes...….You were given that "extra" advantage way back by Johnson...……….
I always ran faster barefoot.
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How many of your family members were in the military?
Doesn't matter. How many are abandoning their children? THAT is the problem but instead it's the false racism charge that's keeping blacks, as a group, back. That's where the problem is with all groups, especially the poor.

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Old 10-27-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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Ok, I’m not reading 32 pages of arguments about Jews.

How much money do y’all want and how should it be paid?
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Nonsense. You’re not one going on about non-white this or that.

You’re clearly delusional if you believe reparations are just going to come when Hispanics push the country to majority minority. Hispanics are a broad linguistic grouping but most in this country are not of African origin but rather mestizo (European/Amerindian). What makes you think they are going to be in favor of reparations or all Democrat for that matter?

Show me what Hispanic nation has given reparations to thee African descendants?

Is it possible? Perhaps. But by that time, even more unlikely.

Sorry not a liberal. My views lean libertarian but the Republican Party is absolutely ridiculous.
Do you deny there are a bunch of crazy Democrats who support reparations right now? This includes white Democrats.

My point is Democrats use racial grievance rhetoric to target all minorities and if you don't think many non-black minorities are open to receiving reparation money, you are the delusional one. Democrats currently support free tuition for the children of illegal immigrants.


You say it can't happen but you can look at South Africa and other African nations where the government is stealing land from white farmers.

Racial grievance politics leads to this kind of thing.
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Old 10-27-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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Doesn't matter. How many are abandoning their children? THAT is the problem but instead it's the false racism charge that's keeping blacks, as a group, back.
But white abandonment can increase 600% since the 60’s.....with no rise in white socioeconomic problems detected. The black rate increased 400% since that time and it gets said to be the root of black problems since the 60’s.

Just another bs attempt at deflecting from racism.
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