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Old 01-05-2020, 07:42 AM
 
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What is President Trump’s End Game in the Middle East? Is he a genius playing chess or just another politician playing with fire?

President Trump’s ‘Perfect’ hit on Qassim Soleimani, Head of Iran’s International Terror Group (aka Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force) may actually be a brilliant chess move in the Middle East.

First, the Big Picture:
What is the #1 objective in Iraq? To get the hell out;
What is the #1 objective in Iran? To finally destroy their nuclear capability.

By killing arguably the ‘Most Wanted Terrorist in the World’, in Iraq, it may get Iraq’s Parliament, which has become increasingly influenced by Iran(Iraq's powerful Shiite militias are aligned with Iran against U.S. Forces), to close the United States Embassy and pull ALL US troops out of their country.

Objective #1 in Iraq – ACHIEVED

And killing Iran’s #2 most powerful man lures an outraged Iran to respond militarily, prompting an even larger military response by the US. And this time the US won’t be dropping pallets of cash! It will be another Shock & Awe only with technology and capability unheard of almost twenty years ago. And once the USAF and Navy have established air superiority and neutralized Iran's air defenses, B-52s could then lumber in and drop 20,000 pound MOAB and 30,000 pound MOP bombs to penetrate and destroy Iran's fortified underground nuclear industry.

Objective #1 in Iran – ACHIEVED

Side Benefits:
  • Removes and/or minimizes US targets for future attacks;
  • Stimulate rise of anti-Ayatollah protests may finally lead to a leadership change to a more civil political government in Iran;
  • Iraq will be free to establish whatever government its people wishes;
  • Minimum casualties: most attacks will be carried out from a stand-off position so there would be no need for boots on the ground;
  • Iran’s neighboring countries and Israel could breathe easier now that the regional bully has been knocked out;
  • Sends clear messages to other terrorist factions (and North Korea) that the US is under new management, and there will no longer be tolerance of terrorist blackmail throughout the world. Plus – no more ‘Apology Tours’.
  • This time our military personnel will not be hand-cuffed with ridiculous rules of engagement that restrain their effectiveness resulting in another quagmire. Plus – Navy ships won’t be seized and detained, and our sailors humiliated.

All terrorists in the entire world can no longer sleep easy while watching the night skies for ‘Death From Above’ fearing being turned into Hellfire Shawarma.

Finally, President Trump is NOT diverting attention away from the Impeachment Proceedings (which are already dead in the water). He is actually trying to finally achieve the best results to decades-long objectives in the Middle East that his predecessors could not or would not attempt. This is NOT Wag the 'Dog’, it’s Wag the Ayatollah!
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:44 AM
 
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Excellent post...rep for you!
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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Lol... how clueless do you need to be to think that we could destroy Iran’s nuclear industry if it wasn’t for those pesky Iranian air defenses...
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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I think this was indeed partially a message to North Korea.
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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What is President Trump’s End Game in the Middle East? Is he a genius playing chess or just another politician playing with fire?
I report. You decide.

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Old 01-05-2020, 07:54 AM
 
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Lol... how clueless do you need to be to think that we could destroy Iran’s nuclear industry if it wasn’t for those pesky Iranian air defenses...

The U.S. could easily defeat any air defense, or any defense Iran has. However, Trump's goal is to stabilize and CONTAIN the situation like we did with Gadhafi and Libya before Obama screwed it up. It is NOT to destroy Iran or even enact regime change.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:02 AM
 
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What a laughable post. Put down the First Blood VHS tapes and go back to bed.
Don't push him, just let ot go.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:04 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rumann Koch View Post
What is President Trump’s End Game in the Middle East? Is he a genius playing chess or just another politician playing with fire?

President Trump’s ‘Perfect’ hit on Qassim Soleimani, Head of Iran’s International Terror Group (aka Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force) may actually be a brilliant chess move in the Middle East.

First, the Big Picture:
What is the #1 objective in Iraq? To get the hell out;
What is the #1 objective in Iran? To finally destroy their nuclear capability.

By killing arguably the ‘Most Wanted Terrorist in the World’, in Iraq, it may get Iraq’s Parliament, which has become increasingly influenced by Iran(Iraq's powerful Shiite militias are aligned with Iran against U.S. Forces), to close the United States Embassy and pull ALL US troops out of their country.

Objective #1 in Iraq – ACHIEVED

And killing Iran’s #2 most powerful man lures an outraged Iran to respond militarily, prompting an even larger military response by the US. And this time the US won’t be dropping pallets of cash! It will be another Shock & Awe only with technology and capability unheard of almost twenty years ago. And once the USAF and Navy have established air superiority and neutralized Iran's air defenses, B-52s could then lumber in and drop 20,000 pound MOAB and 30,000 pound MOP bombs to penetrate and destroy Iran's fortified underground nuclear industry.

Objective #1 in Iran – ACHIEVED

Side Benefits:
  • Removes and/or minimizes US targets for future attacks;
  • Stimulate rise of anti-Ayatollah protests may finally lead to a leadership change to a more civil political government in Iran;
  • Iraq will be free to establish whatever government its people wishes;
  • Minimum casualties: most attacks will be carried out from a stand-off position so there would be no need for boots on the ground;
  • Iran’s neighboring countries and Israel could breathe easier now that the regional bully has been knocked out;
  • Sends clear messages to other terrorist factions (and North Korea) that the US is under new management, and there will no longer be tolerance of terrorist blackmail throughout the world. Plus – no more ‘Apology Tours’.
  • This time our military personnel will not be hand-cuffed with ridiculous rules of engagement that restrain their effectiveness resulting in another quagmire. Plus – Navy ships won’t be seized and detained, and our sailors humiliated.

All terrorists in the entire world can no longer sleep easy while watching the night skies for ‘Death From Above’ fearing being turned into Hellfire Shawarma.

Finally, President Trump is NOT diverting attention away from the Impeachment Proceedings (which are already dead in the water). He is actually trying to finally achieve the best results to decades-long objectives in the Middle East that his predecessors could not or would not attempt. This is NOT Wag the 'Dog’, it’s Wag the Ayatollah!
I would only add to your interesting post that Iran has been probing with hostile actions for some time and it went to their 'go to' action: storm a US embassy. That has worked in the past with weak administrations (during Carter in Iran and Obama in Ben Ghazi) but clearly won't work with this administration.

Lived through it before and know it when I see it again.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:04 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rumann Koch View Post
What is President Trump’s End Game in the Middle East? Is he a genius playing chess or just another politician playing with fire?

President Trump’s ‘Perfect’ hit on Qassim Soleimani, Head of Iran’s International Terror Group (aka Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force) may actually be a brilliant chess move in the Middle East.

First, the Big Picture:
What is the #1 objective in Iraq? To get the hell out;
What is the #1 objective in Iran? To finally destroy their nuclear capability.

By killing arguably the ‘Most Wanted Terrorist in the World’, in Iraq, it may get Iraq’s Parliament, which has become increasingly influenced by Iran(Iraq's powerful Shiite militias are aligned with Iran against U.S. Forces), to close the United States Embassy and pull ALL US troops out of their country.

Objective #1 in Iraq – ACHIEVED

And killing Iran’s #2 most powerful man lures an outraged Iran to respond militarily, prompting an even larger military response by the US. And this time the US won’t be dropping pallets of cash! It will be another Shock & Awe only with technology and capability unheard of almost twenty years ago. And once the USAF and Navy have established air superiority and neutralized Iran's air defenses, B-52s could then lumber in and drop 20,000 pound MOAB and 30,000 pound MOP bombs to penetrate and destroy Iran's fortified underground nuclear industry.

Objective #1 in Iran – ACHIEVED

Side Benefits:
  • Removes and/or minimizes US targets for future attacks;
  • Stimulate rise of anti-Ayatollah protests may finally lead to a leadership change to a more civil political government in Iran;
  • Iraq will be free to establish whatever government its people wishes;
  • Minimum casualties: most attacks will be carried out from a stand-off position so there would be no need for boots on the ground;
  • Iran’s neighboring countries and Israel could breathe easier now that the regional bully has been knocked out;
  • Sends clear messages to other terrorist factions (and North Korea) that the US is under new management, and there will no longer be tolerance of terrorist blackmail throughout the world. Plus – no more ‘Apology Tours’.
  • This time our military personnel will not be hand-cuffed with ridiculous rules of engagement that restrain their effectiveness resulting in another quagmire. Plus – Navy ships won’t be seized and detained, and our sailors humiliated.

All terrorists in the entire world can no longer sleep easy while watching the night skies for ‘Death From Above’ fearing being turned into Hellfire Shawarma.

Finally, President Trump is NOT diverting attention away from the Impeachment Proceedings (which are already dead in the water). He is actually trying to finally achieve the best results to decades-long objectives in the Middle East that his predecessors could not or would not attempt. This is NOT Wag the 'Dog’, it’s Wag the Ayatollah!
You've been playing too many video games
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:06 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Why do you list two items as ACHIEVED when neither has happened?

That seems funny.
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