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Old 01-17-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
Virginia senate passed three gun laws:

* Mandatory background checks on all purchases
* Law allowing cities and towns to ban guns at public events
* Handgun purchases limited to one per month

What's to protest? These are good laws that enhance public safety while not restricting anyone's right to own a gun.
You forgot to mention the new restrictive laws that pertain to semi-auto weapons, like the AR-15 and are owned by a lot of Americans.

On the 3 laws you listed, all laws, whether they pertain to guns or not, are broken by criminals everyday, they haven't helped in reducing violent crime and keeping criminals from getting guns illegally. Virginia's law-abiding gun owners haven't done anything wrong to warrant such restrictive new gun laws.
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Old 01-17-2020, 01:19 PM
 
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Realistically speaking, I doubt that many Americans will bother to read their own laws and decide to withdraw consent because of the fraud used to acquire that consent.
But I think it would be useful for the subject citizens to politely notify their public servants, that such actions as this will instigate a massive withdrawal of consent.
Not only will this restore all endowed rights, but will severely reduce tax revenues and subjects to govern. Remember, NO right can be taxed, lest it be diminished by higher taxation. Only government privileges are taxable.
Therefore, if 10% or more of Virginians 'leave' the reservation, the state coffers will immediately suffer a 10% decline (if not more).
If 50% leave, the fat lady will be singing, and the socialists will find themselves without the means to legally rob and bribe.
Fortunately for civilization and those who appreciate it more than their desire to live in dystopian/wild west societies, this most likely won't happen. Keep dreaming though.
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Old 01-17-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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5.56NATO/.223 is a weird urban legend that simply will not die no matter how thoroughly it gets debunked. Knuckleheads like corpgypsy and cragiri are just those silly neighborhood kids who swear they know a guy who knows a dude who dated a chick whose uncle knew a guy that knows how the .223 round was designed in Lex Luthor's underwater fortress to cause massive human suffering on an unparalleled scale...because he was there, man. I swear! And there is a engine that runs on tap water, four different versions of perpetual motion, cold fusion in some dude's basement, and Elvis lives in Buenos Aires.
now that's some funny stuff
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Old 01-17-2020, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Nope....I just looked at the ruler held next to the ballistics gel and read off the report which listed the cm range of the CAVITY affected.

It's BS to say I stated "hole". I also linked to another couple of diagrams which detailed the specific wounds....which may have bene in pigs, humans or otherwise.

I also made the idea of "hole" clear by stating that if we dropped an atomic bomb on the superbowl the hole it made in the roof would be quite small. But when it hit the ground (it is had a contact fuse) that results would differ INSIDE the "enclosed body" of the bowl

I refuse to believe that adults are so clueless as to sit here and tell us that the affected cavity inside the human body...as evidenced by testings for many years - does not represent 100's of times the volume area of the bullet itself.

Please. Let me hear you state that. Or anyone else.

"I, Joe, do not believe that the affected cavity inside the human body by the best .223 ammo shot out of the proper barrel is dozens of times the cubic volume of the bullet itself traveling straight through at it;'s size"....

Simple, right?

If the projectile is 1/4" x 3/4" (and it is...approx") and it simply made the same size hole through 1 lineal foot of the human body, that would be a cylinder .25 x .75 x 12 inches.
This is .6 cubic inches - less than one.

Now, let's take the mid-range of the cavities shown in various tests as a round ball (just to make things easier - even tho it is elongated).

If that round ball was 4 inches - (most are larger), that would represent a area of 33 cubic inches.....

Or, 50 times the damage.

I think I am being conservative here. I'd say the range is 40-100 times the damage of "straight hole".

But, anyway, what does this have to do with the Neo-Nazis wanted to cause havoc in VA? Should we let them do do with .223 because of the small entrance hole?
With all that your still missing a BUNCH of information regarding ballistic performance. And I was just clearing up a case of mistaken identity in regards to you at any rate.

I've gone on record here a few times now being of the opinion this should NOT be an armed rally. That's a bad idea. To many people on edge worked up or both.

As to the Hitler humpers I have stated event organizers and participants should both make it clear those cretins are not welcome. As a firearms owner and user it chaps me even being loosely associated with them.

Maybe we both support firearms rights and the 2A but I can guarantee for far different reasons.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:07 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So much this. My state has passed and legislated numerous measures that were totally unconstitutional from public transportation taxes to gun regulations to property and water rights. The bad part is that months or years later when they are overturned, it's too late for the people and businesses that lost everything and our state government goes "meh" and takes ZERO responsibility for it.

I don't care if you're democrat or republican, this goes across party lines and states need to stop enacting unconstitutional measures.
Bingo! Sadly, you are 100% correct. /smh
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:20 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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VITAL TO DISARM
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You can never have an efficient totalitarian police state, when it has to be “benevolent” and fearful of millions of armed citizens. And you can’t disarm millions of armed citizens when they won’t tell you where the arms are. And you can’t arrest them until you criminalize their disobedience to “reasonable” gun restrictions and “common sense” registration. And you can’t tolerate their belief that they have an “endowed right” to self defense against tyranny, that supersedes your political power of the bigger gun.
• An Armed Populace Fears No Government.
• A Disarmed Populace Fears All Government.
• A Criminal Government Fears Guns.
• An Honest Government Appreciates the Assistance.

Criminals acquire guns by disregarding laws.
Making victims helpless is the government's job.


WHY?

DEMOCRACY - a form of government where the majority can legally oppress the minority - unless they can shoot back.
Bears repeating:

"Criminals acquire guns by disregarding laws.
Making victims helpless is the government's job."


That is NOT what the Founders intended.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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As time goes by, I'm only seeing the hatred toward Democrats growing in these pro-gun states. To the point where some Democratic legislators are fearing for their personal safety. Not sure how much farther this can go.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:40 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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As time goes by, I'm only seeing the hatred toward Democrats growing in these pro-gun states. To the point where some Democratic legislators are fearing for their personal safety. Not sure how much farther this can go.
They'll be voted out. Gun-owning Dem voters now know they've been betrayed.
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I see the cream of the crop are heading for Richmond.


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Virginia Capital on Edge as F.B.I. Arrests Suspected Neo-Nazis Before Gun Rally

The three men had obtained guns and discussed traveling to Virginia for protests against new gun control measures, officials said.


RICHMOND, Va. — Alarming calls online for a race war. The arrest of three suspected neo-Nazis. Memories of the explosive clashes in Charlottesville, Va., three years ago.
A sense of crisis enveloped the capital of Virginia on Thursday, with the police on heightened alert and Richmond bracing for possible violence ahead of a gun rally next week that is expected to draw white supremacists and other anti-government extremists.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/u...gun-rally.html
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Old 01-17-2020, 05:26 PM
 
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Default Wow! FBI Arrests 3 Alleged White Supremacists Over Concerns They Might Engage In Violence

Because they MIGHT engage in violence? Really, you arrested them?

And you arrested them for harboring illegals? WTF is that all about? The entire country is harboring illegals and you give them a pass.

And you arrested them because you claim they are White Supremacists? How many Antifa have you arrested, BLM?? These people roam in the streets and carry weapons and hurt people, physically attack people they don't like or want there but arrests are very rare.

So is this just the DS trying to set up some fear in the people? Because Virginia is a open carry state and now they are going to restrict that?

Better have lots and lots of cops who would actually arrest people for legally carrying. Good chance this is going to get ugly because that's what they want so they can try to prove a point.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...nia-gun-rally/
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