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OP, you support a president who farms his work out to foreign countries, gives tax breaks to the rich, takes REALLY EXPENSIVE vacations WEEKLY on the taxpayer's dime, employed illegals as policy until caught, and the list goes on. He's the biggest elitist of them all.
Utter nonsense! Outsourcing has been around for a long time. As for tax breaks for the rich it creates jobs and the rich pay the majority of taxes in this country. Expensive vacation every week? Huh? I'm only aware of his weekend golf outings. Every president is entitled to take vacations anyway and have. He doesn't even take a presidential salary.
There is no proof that Trump was aware of any illegals working on his properties either. Rich people don't hire manual laborers themselves. They were caught using fake or stolen ID's and then fired. Trump now uses e-verify on all of his properties and in fact was being used already except for his golf courses. Stop spreading lies!
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Generally I agree with the things you say, Natalie, but not here. Illegals have displaced Americans on these jobs. The only one we don't want to do is seasonal farm work, because it pays so low and because you can't raise a family or afford good housing if you're traveling around the country following the crops.
Are you sure about that? I don't know anyone who would want to work at a slaughterhouse even if it paid $20/hr...
OP, you support a president who farms his work out to foreign countries, gives tax breaks to the rich, takes REALLY EXPENSIVE vacations WEEKLY on the taxpayer's dime, employed illegals as policy until caught, and the list goes on. He's the biggest elitist of them all.
You might as well yell at a brick wall.
Not only is Trump an elitist, he's a NYC Coastal Liberal elitist, with his gilded Manhattan penthouse and expensive suits. He's everything they claim to hate. Yes, he is. But they think he cares about them and their issues in what Trump considers "flyover country."
sorry but working in a slaughter house, or cleaning toilets is not beneath me
why are liberals so full of them selves that they think they are so elite, that the average America wont do a job, because its "beneath them"
the fascist (I mean democratic) party is full of complete nut balls
Then go work in one. I know many business owners that hired Mexican labor because white guys were either methed out or lazy. WV is a great illustration of that.
It has become pretty obvious this election cycle that the Democratic party has completely abandoned any sense of centrism and any efforts to represent the American working class. They have done nothing but attack working Americans and demand that they pay an ever-higher portion of their earnings to fund government. This above the 40% or more of our earnings that we already pay.
Now, that is of course my opinion-tell me, are the following policies aimed at helping or hurting American workers or taxpayers?
1) Working to "level the playing field" regarding our international trade practices. One where our companies and workers are allowed to compete fairly and have the same access to foreign markets that we allow foreign producers to ours?
2) Tax laws that don't penalize companies that employ workers and produce products built in this country.
3) Reducing business taxes to a level competitive with the rest of the world, rather than one that is punitive and drives businesses to purchase products produced elsewhere.
4) We need federal tax revenue-no question. What is a better approach? Direct taxes on American workers and businesses-taxes that punish Americans and encourage companies to move out of this nation? Or taxes on imported goods? (hint-prior to the 16th amendment (income tax) most revenue was from tariffs).
5) Illegal aliens increase competition for low wage, unskilled jobs. This depresses wages and costs jobs for American citizens. Can someone explain just how this helps American workers? Particularly low-skilled, minority workers? A steady supply of low-wage illegals IS something some businesses want. But NOT something that helps American workers.
6) Both controlling illegal immigration and tax policy that encourages domestic production are NOT things that American corporations support. They would prefer to outsource production to foreign nations with cheap labor and no safety and environmental regulations. They also want their supply of cheap illegal workers. Both of these are things that DEMOCRATS have embraced-and President Trump has opposed. To be fair-both establishment Democrats and Republicans favor cheap imports and illegal workers-and have sold out the American working class.
7) Can someone explain just how raising taxes and forcing American workers to fund illegals...helps American workers? We spend some $140 billion a year-money taken from working Americans in the form of taxes, on illegals every single year. Again-just how does this help the American working class? We sacrifice our educational system-rather than offering things like honors classes and doing a better job of education Americans, we spend a disproportionate amount of our educational dollars paying to support "ESL" programs and catering to illiterate foreigners that can't even make the effort to learn English.
8) Let's talk about guns. Gun owners I am aware of are working class people. Most concealed carriers I know are. Let's face it-the American working class can't pay for the private security that protects billionaires like Mike Bloomberg and don't get government funded security like, say, Nancy Pelosi. We are the ones that are often working in sketchier neighborhoods and deal with crime. Yet we are the ones that Democrats are trying to disarm. The Democratic party, as a whole seems to empathize far more with criminals than law abiding American workers.
9) "Tax the rich". American workers are not stupid, like liberal talking heads seem to think we are. American workers know that, without successful businesses, we won't have jobs, or will have to get out of our comfort zones and create our own businesses, which some simply don't want to, to say nothing of the vast majority that lack the skills and abilities to do so. We know that we need people willing to risk their life's savings, and frankly, to bust their butts, to get a business off the ground to provide us with job opportunities. We do not support idiotic, punitive taxes and regulations that punish those that make the effort, take the risks and succeed. Yet we have the bulk of the Democratic candidates promising to punish success-and reward incompetence and laziness. We also know that "the rich" already pay taxes at a vastly disproportionate rate, and that if we drive them out of our states, let alone our nation, the rest of us will have to pay far more to make up for the taxes they pay.
In short-the policies President Trump has pushed, are aimed at helping the American working class. He actually has sided with American workers, even with policies that big businesses opposed. Even when those policies are opposed by both establishment Democrats and Republicans, who in far too many case are in the pockets of corporations.
The Democratic working person has a tough choice to make this year. They can vote for a screeching, ranting old loon of a socialist. One whose efforts are aimed at destroying businesses, killing jobs, and punishing success. Or they can vote for a senile plutocrat that has spent his career fighting for the credit industry over American workers. While both want to violate their civil rights, make American workers slaves to illegals and weaken this nation.
My questions-just when did the Democratic party abandon the American working class? And is it possible they will ever return to embracing policies that actually support American workers, economic growth and freedom?
The house passed a bill to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 by 2025. Guess, what's going to happen when it reaches the senate? Even Trump has threatened to veto it, because he knows paying $15/hr to his employees would bankrupt him. The democrats aren't doing much, but the GOP is actively against the working class. Think twice next time before throwing stones in a glass house.
The house passed a bill to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 by 2025. Guess, what's going to happen when it reaches the senate? Even Trump has threatened to veto it, because he knows paying $15/hr to his employees would bankrupt him. The democrats aren't doing much, but the GOP is actively against the working class. Think twice next time before throwing stones in a glass house.
And I ask again, how is wanting millions of illegal aliens to remain here as the Democrats do and fighting against good physical barriers on the border akin to helping the American worker?
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