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Old 03-08-2020, 06:39 AM
 
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What Democrats propose as a "moderate" position is actual radical leftist thinking, delayed. Take, for example, the "public option" offered by the so-called moderates in place of the Medicaid-for-All proposed by the socialist. The fact is a public option, which doesn't have to worry about making a profit and can simply allocate taxpayer funds toward propping it up, will drive all private insurers out of business within a year or two. Hence: Medicaid-for-All, but delayed a short bit.


And I hope nobody is fooled into thinking Biden is a moderte. He is far to the left of Obama, and, as just one example, is in favor of giving health care to illegal aliens.
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Old 03-08-2020, 07:08 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Who has been displaced in the constriction trade for illegals? LIUNA does not do that. Perhaps private companies do that so they can pay them less.
Well at least you didn't try to deny the impact of NAFTA.

So what cities provide protection from the FED? AKA Sanctuary cities?

So when the left cries would at every attempt to arrest illegals, knowing full well that illegals are lowballing citizens out of work, that isn't enabling and supporting illegals?

Yeah. I am guessing you have a bridge you would like to sell as well.

The Democratic Party has done nothing but hurt Middle Class Americans. they pander to the extremes at the expense of blue collar America. The only difference between the dems and the GOP is the Rhetoric.
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Old 03-08-2020, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Democrats have always supported unions which look out for the middle class. They train them and provide good pay and healthcare. What have republicans done for the middle class?
democrats may have supported the unions years ago...but not today


unions fought against NAFTA which the globalist liberals pushed hard


liberals have been eroding away at the middleclass, and nearly completely forgotten then
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Old 03-08-2020, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I challenge you to find a nation that has lower taxes than the US but has a similar or better quality of life. I could list about 20 where the opposite is true.
Bermuda, Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Monaco are the best no tax places I can think of.

Mike Bloomberg spends a lot of time in Bermuda

Mitch Romney spends time in the Cayman Islands

Lots of music industry stars, and hollywood stars live in the Bahamas (Mariah Carey, Johny Depp)

The Ukranian ex-President who raped the country of Billions fled to Monaco (Yukanovich)
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Old 03-08-2020, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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These types of rants on cd, by the same ppl over and over are ever so tiring, because they are never genuine and always partisan. Toyman would have everyone believe that Trump and the republicans are actually for the working class, LOL.
Would you like a tissue?
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Old 03-08-2020, 08:25 AM
 
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Well at least you didn't try to deny the impact of NAFTA.

So what cities provide protection from the FED? AKA Sanctuary cities?

So when the left cries would at every attempt to arrest illegals, knowing full well that illegals are lowballing citizens out of work, that isn't enabling and supporting illegals?

Yeah. I am guessing you have a bridge you would like to sell as well.

The Democratic Party has done nothing but hurt Middle Class Americans. they pander to the extremes at the expense of blue collar America. The only difference between the dems and the GOP is the Rhetoric.
Illegal aliens have flooded the construction industry so WTH is she talking about? You're correct illegals are low balling citizens out of once good paying jobs and also entry level jobs for our less educated and poor citizens. You're correct again, the Democrats don't care about that they just want to retain the ethnocentric Hispanic vote by keeping our border open for more to get into our country and promising those already here amnesty. They also refuse to pass a mandated e-verify bill to stop the employers that the GOP has presented many times.

Mind you, I blame the greedy employers just as much but the pro-illegals only want to blame them but not the illegals themselves. No one forces them over the border to work here. They are both equally guilty of breaking the law and they both know it!
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Old 03-08-2020, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Democrats have always supported unions which look out for the middle class. They train them and provide good pay and healthcare. What have republicans done for the middle class?
Only 6% of US workers in private industry are in unions-are you saying that the Democrats don't care about the other 94% of US workers? I'd agree-the actions of the left are consistently aimed at harming US workers. As I said-anyone that favors allowing illegals to enter this country, displace American workers and depress wages-is NOT pro-worker. Nor is anyone that wants US workers to pay for the health care of illegals. Nor anyone that consistently attacks the businesses that provide the jobs for workers.

The only reason that Dems support unions-is that they been bought by union leadership. Unions help union leadership and officers, far more than the do workers. This is especially true with public employee unions-which bribe elected officials who sell out voters for their payoffs. Payoffs either in the form of actual cash payments-or more commonly endorsements and campaign donations.
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Old 03-08-2020, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Who has been displaced in the constriction trade for illegals? LIUNA does not do that. Perhaps private companies do that so they can pay them less.
Now you're really trying to deny reality. Construction in many areas is dominated by illegals. Illegals that have displaced American workers and driven down wages. As you say-private companies do so so they can pay them less-that's the whole point. And it is the Democratic party that is fighting to enable illegals to enter this nation, displace American workers and satisfy their corporate masters. Not that a portion of establishment Republicans don't do the same.

This is just one case where Trump has actually sided with American workers-over US corporations.
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Old 03-08-2020, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It's called gaslighting, they do it to try to sway the few rubes on the fence to their side
And yet, you haven't even tried to counter a single point. Why is that?
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Old 03-08-2020, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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And yet, you haven't even tried to counter a single point. Why is that?
I don't need to, because all your points are biased BS. They disprove themselves if you aren't in the tRump cult
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