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It seems to me the Trump bashers start enough of their own threads. That still doesn't address the mentality of the hardliners from both sides who absolutely refuse to hold their own even slightly accountable. They both will use the same excuses however, of why the sins of their own party don't matter.
And those threads also devolve into "Demonrats, leftists are evil, party of hate, blah blah blah"
This entire thread (and all the other ones expressing concerns for the fate of the party) exist only as a place to continue the "evil, demonic, mentally ill" narrative and to bait Democrats into responding so those posts can be quoted with more comments about evil, demon, libs, orangemanbad, dismissive nonsense.
You don't want a serious conversation, you want an excuse to lob more insults. I won't engage.
Democrats have always supported unions which look out for the middle class. They train them and provide good pay and healthcare. What have republicans done for the middle class?
Exactly.
It has been a symbiotic relationship going back decades.
Both the party and the unions have had the well-being of working people their number one first priority. There have always been areas and industries the unions have not been able to reach, and to help those people the unions have advocated legislation, which the Democratic Party has ben more than willing to sponsor.
Thus, the Democratic Party had always been the prime mover behind legislation promoting working people's health and safety, consumer health and safety, the quality of our environment and the quality of life in one's golden years. Yes, that often means Federal and State regulations, because industry is unwilling to regulate and discipline itself. An attack on the regulations designed to protect us is an attack on the people of the USA.
Republicans stand for the rights of global corporate interests to screw us over.
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It has been a symbiotic relationship going back decades.
Both the party and the unions have had the well-being of working people their number one first priority. There have always been areas and industries the unions have not been able to reach, and to help those people the unions have advocated legislation, which the Democratic Party has ben more than willing to sponsor.
Thus, the Democratic Party had always been the prime mover behind legislation promoting working people's health and safety, consumer health and safety, the quality of our environment and the quality of life in one's golden years. Yes, that often means Federal and State regulations, because industry is unwilling to regulate and discipline itself. An attack on the regulations designed to protect us is an attack on the people of the USA.
Republicans stand for the rights of global corporate interests to screw us over.
~
You forgot the Republicans hate women, hate blacks, hate the elderly, hate Latinos, hate foreigners, hate gays, hate transgenders, hate children, want to poison the ground, air and water, hate science and technology, etc... did I miss any hate-filled stereotypes? There are sooo many, so I probably did.
OP, you support a president who farms his work out to foreign countries, gives tax breaks to the rich, takes REALLY EXPENSIVE vacations WEEKLY on the taxpayer's dime, employed illegals as policy until caught, and the list goes on. He's the biggest elitist of them all.
Illegals have absolutely not displaced American union workers in construction. Unions will hire H2-B workers though just like everyone else. And you know why they have to do that.....Americans don't want construction jobs.
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Originally Posted by boneyard1962
So only Union workers are working middle class Americans? If you aren't a Union worker, then it is fine that illegals, who enjoy pretty much unconditional support by the Democratic Party, low ball tax paying citizens out of their trades?
By the way illegals low ball everyone out of work. There is a very good reason illegals are so bold. They enjoy a great deal of support by politicians on the left.
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Originally Posted by natalie469
They do jobs that Americans don't want. What American wants to clean houses or office buildings. What American can you hire to work on farms. They don't want these jobs so what should we do?
Generally I agree with the things you say, Natalie, but not here. Illegals have displaced Americans on these jobs. The only one we don't want to do is seasonal farm work, because it pays so low and because you can't raise a family or afford good housing if you're traveling around the country following the crops.
Democrats have always supported unions which look out for the middle class. They train them and provide good pay and healthcare. What have republicans done for the middle class?
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Originally Posted by Hesychios
Exactly.
It has been a symbiotic relationship going back decades.
Both the party and the unions have had the well-being of working people their number one first priority. There have always been areas and industries the unions have not been able to reach, and to help those people the unions have advocated legislation, which the Democratic Party has ben more than willing to sponsor.
Thus, the Democratic Party had always been the prime mover behind legislation promoting working people's health and safety, consumer health and safety, the quality of our environment and the quality of life in one's golden years. Yes, that often means Federal and State regulations, because industry is unwilling to regulate and discipline itself. An attack on the regulations designed to protect us is an attack on the people of the USA.
Republicans stand for the rights of global corporate interests to screw us over.
~
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
You forgot the Republicans hate women, hate blacks, hate the elderly, hate Latinos, hate foreigners, hate gays, hate transgenders, hate children, want to poison the ground, air and water, hate science and technology, etc... did I miss any hate-filled stereotypes? There are sooo many, so I probably did.
I dislike generalizations, but when such attitudes are manifest (and we see that they sometimes are ... 'good people' on both sides, and all that ...) those are actually connected to the 'wedge issue' modus operandi of the party. The party political consultants and big donors (the 'handlers' and 'controllers' of the party agenda) themselves can not be said to 'hate' anyone definitively. But they have been generally willing to exploit the fears and anxieties of people to gain their votes.
The party can not win based upon it's own economic agenda (the party's economic agenda is job #1 ... always). It NEEDS working people to vote against their own best economic interest.
Therefore it will take advantage of one-issue voters, amping them up in their fears and resentments, where necessary distorting the truth. This does have the effect of attracting certain types of people who then think of themselves as 'true' Republicans. Actually, outside of their own personal exploited grievances they know next to nothing about the actual agenda of the party movers and shakers and these have little to no influence on party policy.
It has been a symbiotic relationship going back decades.
Both the party and the unions have had the well-being of working people their number one first priority. There have always been areas and industries the unions have not been able to reach, and to help those people the unions have advocated legislation, which the Democratic Party has ben more than willing to sponsor.
Thus, the Democratic Party had always been the prime mover behind legislation promoting working people's health and safety, consumer health and safety, the quality of our environment and the quality of life in one's golden years. Yes, that often means Federal and State regulations, because industry is unwilling to regulate and discipline itself. An attack on the regulations designed to protect us is an attack on the people of the USA.
Republicans stand for the rights of global corporate interests to screw us over.
~
The Democrats "used to be" for the American worker, not anymore. How is advocating for illegal aliens to remain here, being free from the enforcement of our immigration laws and refusing to secure our border with good physical barriers where needed, akin to being for the American worker these days? They also refuse to pass an e-verify bill that would also protect the American worker. It is the Democrats that stand for the rights of corporate interests to screw us over by supporting their cheap, illegal labor here. Inquiring minds want to know.
Last edited by Oldglory; 03-09-2020 at 11:36 AM..
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