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Old 03-27-2020, 09:02 AM
 
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How would anyone know? Arizona has the lowest per capita testing in the US. Probably paywalled but here is your link:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...gtype=Homepage

You would know by how many are in the hospital with it and how many have died. 8 deaths in Arizona. Do the math. There are no stories about hospitals filling up here.

But I agree we need much better testing. And we need to test everyone to see if they have recovered from it as soon as its available. We need to know the real numbers.

 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:02 AM
 
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Not surprising, I bet Stephen Miller was PISSED.


https://twitter.com/politico/status/1243417513787936772
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I saw where the governor overrode the orders of the Tupelo Mayor to close restaurants and other businesses, he is crazy.


There are significant spreads of the virus in Louisiana, just a matter of time.
Yeah, Tater tot is an idiot. Luckily most restaurants in Tupelo have decided to keep their dining rooms closed and only offer curb side pick up or delivery. I'm not a huge fan of Shelton, the mayor of Tupelo, but on this he was right.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:05 AM
 
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You would know by how many are in the hospital with it and how many have died. 8 deaths in Arizona. Do the math. There are no stories about hospitals filling up here.

But I agree we need much better testing. And we need to test everyone to see if they have recovered from it as soon as its available. We need to know the real numbers.
And it will be a success if the hospitals do not fill up.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:07 AM
 
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And it will be a success if the hospitals do not fill up.

That seems to be be the rationale for locking down everything. Avoiding that situation.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The state has put orders into place. Individual cities or counties can further lock things down if they want. Things will get worse but we are spread out. We are not going to be like New York or Italy.
We have a massive elderly population and we aren't set to have our peak until next month in this state. This is why it is only eight deaths right now. Do the math and find that 2+2 is 4, not 5...
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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The state has put orders into place. Individual cities or counties can further lock things down if they want. Things will get worse but we are spread out. We are not going to be like New York or Italy.
No, not like NYC...but likely like many other places.

Surely many from AZ have went on cruises, went back to where they came from (East Coast, Midwest, Florida, California, etc.). and such.

If you looked at that map I posted yesterday with the cell phone data tracking you'll get some idea.

The idea that populations anyway are exempt is false. At best an enlightened people and state government (maybe WA state?) may be able to flatten the curve earlier.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:12 AM
 
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Not surprising, I bet Stephen Miller was PISSED.
Any official with sense can repeat the similar saying that Vietnam infantry would say when an officer threatened to punish them...

"what are you going to do, send me to Vietnam?"

Anyone who is fired from the Trump admin can wear that as a badge of honor later in employment.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:16 AM
 
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We have a massive elderly population and we aren't set to have our peak until next month in this state. This is why it is only eight deaths right now. Do the math and find that 2+2 is 4, not 5...

My point about 8 deaths is a way of calculating how many probably have the virus. 1% puts us a 800 instead of 500. If we had 80 deaths then the 500 is a fraction of the real cases.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 09:18 AM
 
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My point about 8 deaths is a way of calculating how many probably have the virus. 1% puts us a 800 instead of 500. If we had 80 deaths then the 500 is a fraction of the real cases.
That isn't quite how it works. Those infected usually succumb after a few weeks on a ventilator, so deaths are really slow at first but pile up quickly later. I put the likelihood that AZ has anywhere near 800 infected at near zero.
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