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Social distancing has provided the statistical positives with regard to COVID19's spread. The lower numbers are proof of that, and people are misunderstanding those numbers to mean that the virus has lost it's lethal steam and therefore, we can all get back to the kind of fraternization we're used to. Numbers are just that, a counting of victims, a record of deaths, they have NO bearing on the state of the virus itself.
Never let facts get in the way of a good tantrum!
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In a society of intelligent people, there would be no need to close certain businesses in times like these, they would simply be closing for lack of customers. But, this is Murica, land of freedumb and home of the not so bright. Government intervened in a society that failed to restrain itself, look at the recent spring break fiasco in Florida, that kind of mindless partying is just the kind of thing that allows the spread of infection to reach critical mass. And the youth were laughing in disbelief. This is the mindset we all face when attempting to find ways to ameliorate the pain of shutting down business, fools, the bane of any society..
In other words ... We're doomed. All because people are proud of themselves for being stupid. Ugh.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Does every post of yours have to contain "leftist" and claim there is always some dastardly conspiracy, after all this is a pandemic.
People with no real evidence often resort to calling names and outlandish theories. Their opinions and ideas are worthless.
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Do people go about their daily lives when we lose more than 10K per week to heart disease? Do they overeat, smoke, refuse to exercise, and ignore their own genetic past?
Another false equivalence. Heart disease is not contagious.
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A flood of new research suggests that far more people have had the coronavirus without any symptoms, fueling hope that it will turn out to be much less lethal than originally feared.
That's bad news, then, if so many people can transmit the disease without knowing they're sick.
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Never said I quoted the whole thing. But again it is a liberal news paper so you have to give them that thrown in hysteria line.
How disingenuous of you. And neither ABC nor AP are newspapers.
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There seems to be no end to what people think should be provided to others at someone else's expense.
You mean like corporate welfare to large banks, auto makers, and other giant corporations?
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It's happening. And we are going to be alright. Every day, death estimates are revised downwards and sampling suggests infection rates are 50x-80x higher than originally thought.
Do you ever wonder why that is? Could it be ... [most] people are staying home?
LOL. Really? People don't spend money even now getting takeout, getting gas, buying beer/liquor, etc. How does that commerce not support a local economy?
Opening the beach is a start. And you can't argue the vitriol that's been spewed at the beachgoers. Go on. Prove me wrong.
Well we'll see with Jacksonville's employment numbers -- if there is a spike you might be right about people walking on the beach stimulating the economy -- if not -- you are proven wrong.
It will take a month to check and you can be dam sure I will remember.......olol
(and here's the irony in your argument -- the only reason all those people can walk on a beach is because they don't have a job)
I don't care about the people on the beach -- good for them.
the symbolism of the beaches being opened as some big policy for opening the economy is a sham.
It's happening. And we are going to be alright. Every day, death estimates are revised downwards and sampling suggests infection rates are 50x-80x higher than originally thought.
You do realize that this statement supports the whole social distancing policy.
That's bad news, then, if so many people can transmit the disease without knowing they're sick.
Of course that means there are that many more people who already had it and thus can't transmit the disease and also that many more people that can provide plasma to treat people who get sick.
Plus again, we started this lock down with the goal only to "flatten the curve" -- if most people have or had it already, the curve will not go up substantially.
No one was staying home to "prevent people from getting sick". But rather a run on the hospitals which is unlikely if many people have had it already.
You do realize that this statement supports the whole social distancing policy.
Only in your head. The fact that evidence is coming out that most people had it already tells me social distancing is just keeping people home who have no risk of getting it.
And I think the federal guidelines for phasing in a return to 'normal life' are good.
2 weeks of decline, start to open up. I do have some issues with something like a gym being in the first phase -- seems counter intuitive.
First -- local businesses, manufacturing -- the engines of the community -- let's get them back up in running.
I would think tourism should and is a tough sell -- so maybe not jump on that to quick, especially given that other areas maybe hotspots
BLAH BLAH BLAH.
But just to jump to phase one ignoring the measurable data conditions is careless and may lead to more problems.
There are real and practical ways to reboot the economy that aren't as sexy and appealing to the masses like letting folks on a beach ---- but our government seems lazy and bored by those ideas.
Only in your head. The fact that evidence is coming out that most people had it already tells me social distancing is just keeping people home who have no risk of getting it.
But by cutting back how we interact -- we slowed the spread significantlly.
Of course that means there are that many more people who already had it and thus can't transmit the disease and also that many more people that can provide plasma to treat people who get sick.
Is that your professional opinion Dr. Stark?
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Only about 10 per cent of Italians have developed coronavirus antibodies, meaning that herd immunity is far from being reached and the concept of “immunity passports” is unrealisable, a senior Italian official said.
“To get herd immunity, about 80 per cent of the population need to have been in contact with the virus, so that target is far off,” Silvio Brusaferro, the head of Italy’s national health institute, said. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...dies-xf7rfxlcq
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