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Old 05-22-2020, 05:59 PM
 
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Good grief. We already have welfare reform that a woman can only be on for 5 years total. That takes care of the tiny minority of women who had child after child to keep the checks rolling in.

There is no incentive financially to having a second or third or fourth.
Good grief. They get more support for each child, and the income cut-off for subsidies goes up with each additional child. There is no financial disincentive to having children they can’t afford since more support comes their way.

Good grief!!!!!!
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:01 PM
 
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Good grief. They get more support for each child, and the income cut-off for subsidies goes up with each additional child. There is no financial disincentive to having children they can’t afford since more support comes their way.

Good grief!!!!!!
They get cut off after 5 years. You are wrong.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:12 PM
 
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They get cut off after 5 years. You are wrong.
And you’re saying that they have no financial incentive for having kid, after kid, after kid. The point is that with each kid comes all sorts of support, and thus they are not required to make the decision as to whether they can AFFORD a child. No consideration given to money. Maybe if they didn’t keep getting all that money they would be more conscientious about B.C.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:25 PM
 
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And you’re saying that they have no financial incentive for having kid, after kid, after kid. The point is that with each kid comes all sorts of support, and thus they are not required to make the decision as to whether they can AFFORD a child. No consideration given to money. Maybe if they didn’t keep getting all that money they would be more conscientious about B.C.
TANF, which is what is referred to as welfare, is over after 5 years one or 20 children. It does not benefit a woman to keep having more. Say you have a 3 year old and have a second child. That child is only supported for 2 years. The next one only one, if a woman were to have a third that quickly. And when I say supported I don't mean fully.

You're thinking of pre welfare reform where having child after child kept the TANF coming in.

That has been over for a ling time for exactly this reason. The government doesn't want to encourage more children with no means of support.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:32 PM
 
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Unless one is an Orthodox Jew in many areas where voting blocks assure that they can cheat the system and game every type of government assistance known to man. TANF for the years that is available, while the men study yiddish and the Torah instead of anything that could resemble work that can earn a living.

Medicaid. Food stamps, etc. Feds have busted many thousands of coordinated fraud in the Orthodox Jew community.

Betcha don't want to talk about that. The women are breeders. They have child after child for religious reasons they know they can't support other than welfare.

Even when there is a good income, they cheat. Cause yanno, GENTILES. We should pay and pay and pay forever.

Public school funds are diverted to their schools. And if anyone says anything about that they are antisemietic.

Two parents doesn't mean anything when the man is constantly in quest of only understanding the Torah better. Why should we subsidize that?
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:02 PM
 
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Unless one is an Orthodox Jew in many areas where voting blocks assure that they can cheat the system and game every type of government assistance known to man. TANF for the years that is available, while the men study yiddish and the Torah instead of anything that could resemble work that can earn a living.

Medicaid. Food stamps, etc. Feds have busted many thousands of coordinated fraud in the Orthodox Jew community.

Betcha don't want to talk about that. The women are breeders. They have child after child for religious reasons they know they can't support other than welfare.

Even when there is a good income, they cheat. Cause yanno, GENTILES. We should pay and pay and pay forever.

Public school funds are diverted to their schools. And if anyone says anything about that they are antisemietic.

Two parents doesn't mean anything when the man is constantly in quest of only understanding the Torah better. Why should we subsidize that?

Wow! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? Been a while since I heard such hate.

No, that's not true. I hear that kind of hate all the time here in CD-Land, frequently directed at conservatives and people of faith. Wish I could be a fly on the wall when your hateful words come back to haunt you.

And if you're going to use big words like antisemitic, please learn to actually spell them. Or at least use the little squiggly red line. It's your friend. (OMG, I wonder why CD even installed the spell check feature, with so few people able to figure out how to use it!)
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:09 PM
 
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Wow! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? Been a while since I heard such hate.

No, that's not true. I hear that kind of hate all the time here in CD-Land, frequently directed at conservatives and people of faith. Wish I could be a fly on the wall when your hateful words come back to haunt you.

And if you're going to use big words like antisemitic, please learn to actually spell them. Or at least use the little squiggly little red line. It's your friend. (OMG, I wonder why CD even installed the spell check feature, with so few people able to figure out how to use it!)
59 pages of hateful commentary about blacks but you show up to accuse hate when mentioning welfare fraud among Orthodox Jews. Yeah, you're credible.

Yes, it is true what I said in my post, misspelled word or not.
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:13 PM
 
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59 pages of hateful commentary about blacks but you show up to accuse hate when mentioning welfare fraud among Orthodox Jews. Yeah, you're credible.

Yes, it is true what I said in my post, misspelled word or not.

Are you black? How many of the bigots have you actually reported to the moderators?
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:16 PM
 
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Are you black? How many of the bigots have you actually reported to the moderators?
60 pages in you are suddenly worried about bigotry.
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:21 PM
 
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60 pages in you are suddenly worried about bigotry.
Hmmmmmmm........


Nice non-response. I guess you don't actually want to talk. You'd rather just spew. Cool!
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