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You were just smack talking me two pages ago with your “law and order” malarkey, but now wish to engage in a conversation about the Constitutional rights of Americans?
Get outta here. I don’t entertain those who disrespect me.
A discussion about Constitutional rights is disrespectful? Okee dokey.
How so? Please explain how he has convincing evidence, to have the authority to nullify a person's 9th Amendment rights, with no crime committed.
Remembering, government CANNOT turn your rights into a crime.
You can bet money this "makes it to federal court". where else would it be litigated? He did this under his authority granted by the State. I guess he did violate the State constitution, too. That is where his qualified immunity goes, in a civil lawsuit.
This judge loses YUGE!
There are thousands of laws, regulations, and statutes that limit your rights in the interest of the public good. Seriously, you know this. Stop being pedantic.
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You should have only stayed in your childhood bedroom if you had smallpox or Covid-19. It is not about protecting you, but protecting the rest of the population.
Since my individual rights don't come from you, or government and are NOT dependent on the U.S. Constitution, and which may not be submitted to a vote and are not dependent on the outcome of an election, being inalienable. How do you propose that, without making me as an individual exercise my 2nd amendment to protect those you demand be taken?
Where is the probable cause I am a threat to you? Could it be my freedom?
Freedom and liberty is some scary chit, when one realizes everyone else has it too.
(EDIT for update) Texas supreme court just order her to be released IMMEDIATELY! The judge violated the Texas State Constitution
There are thousands of laws, regulations, and status that limit your rights in the interest of the public good. Seriously, you know this. Stop being pedantic.
As long as I do not take someone's life, take their liberty, or take their property, when did I consent to these statutory laws and rules made by men.
"What I do say is that no man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. I say this is the leading principle, the sheet-anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
- - - Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (1854) http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abraham_lincoln
As Lincoln reminds us, under the republican form, endowed by our Creator, promised by the USCON, instituted by the Declaration of Independence, NO MAN (nor American government) is good enough to govern you without your consent. Without your consent, all that government is authorized to do is secure endowed (sacred) rights (prosecute trespass; adjudicate disputes; defend against enemies, foreign or domestic).
" When a change of government takes place, from a monarchial to a republican government, the old form is dissolved. Those who lived under it, and did not choose to become members of the new, had a right to refuse their allegiance to it, and to retire elsewhere. By being a part of the society subject to the old government, they had not entered into any engagement to become subject to any new form the majority might think proper to adopt. That the majority shall prevail is a rule posterior to the formation of government, and results from it. It is not a rule binding upon mankind in their natural state. There, every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent."
- - - CRUDEN v. NEALE, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70.
Without consent, no majority can rule nor govern, only secure endowed rights.
All endowed rights and liberties are from the Creator, not government, and thus cannot be subject to a majority vote, or any other infringement.
" Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.
NATURAL RIGHTS - ... are the rights of life, liberty, privacy, and good reputation.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 1324
Americans are endowed with natural rights and liberties (natural and personal) that are not subject to infringement by servant government, instituted to secure those rights.
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“... at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves. . .
“... In Europe, the sovereignty is generally ascribed to the Prince; here, it rests with the people; there, the sovereign actually administers the government; here, never in a single instance; our Governors are the agents of the people, and, at most, stand in the same relation to their sovereign in which regents in Europe stand to their sovereigns.”
- - - Justice John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. 2 Dall. 419 419 (1793) https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...CR_0002_0419_Z
In America, however, the case is widely different. Our government is founded upon compact. Sovereignty was, and is, in the people.
- - - Glass vs The Sloop Betsey, 3 Dall 6 (1794)
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In the republican form of government, the people are sovereigns (unless they consent otherwise) served by (not ruled by) servant government. Their rights and liberties existed before constitutional government (which is why the republican form is NOT a constitutional republic - nor can a constitutional government institute a republican form).
Unfortunately, the majority of Americans volunteered out of the republican form and into the socialist democratic form, and have surrendered their birthright in exchange for the privileges and obligations that come with that consent. But they still have the right to withdraw consent, especially if fraud, constructive fraud and other trickery was used to acquire that consent, without their complete knowledge.
Summed up:
Sovereigns (people) have endowed rights, liberties, and powers.
Subjects (citizens) have government granted privileges and immunities BUT waived their endowment in exchange.
REPUBLICAN FORM
GOVERNMENT (Republican Form of Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people ... directly...
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695
". . . at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves. . ."
- - - Justice John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. 2 Dall. 419 419 (1793)
“The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the Rights of mankind.”
- - - Thomas Jefferson https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
“I firmly believe that the benevolent Creator designed the republican Form of Government for Man.”
- - - Samuel Adams;
Statement of (14 April 1785), quoted in The Writings of Samuel Adams (1904) edited by Harry A. Cushing http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Samuel_Adams
At one time, Americans were aware of the difference...
TX has had 1000 new cases a day for multiple days in a row since reopening. Those demanding things go back to normal now really are a public health risk. This woman put the public and her employees at risk.
TX has had 1000 new cases a day for multiple days in a row since reopening. Those demanding things go back to normal now really are a public health risk. This woman put the public and her employees at risk.
TX Supreme Court, who does preside over the judge, order her released immediately.
Factually correct.
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The Judge violated the Texas State Constitution
That remains to be seen. One of these cases will eventually end up in front of the US Supreme Court. If you think about how many laws are on the books that theoretically infringe on your rights in the interest of public safety, you'll realize that its almost a certainty that the TX Supreme Court will be overruled.
Remember, neither your or I get to interpret the Constitution any way we wish. That's what the court system is for. Your ultra-purist interpretation of your rights has been defeated tens of thousands of times by the courts.
TX has had 1000 new cases a day for multiple days in a row since reopening. Those demanding things go back to normal now really are a public health risk. This woman put the public and her employees at risk.
Customers make choices. That doesn't bother me. If her stylists preferred to stay at home safe, that does bother me.
It's moot now since they are allowed to be open, but it wasn't when she re-opened.
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