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Old 05-19-2020, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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You have an alternative - LEAVE. Vaccination is necessary to keep us ALL at much-reduced risk from life-destroying disease. An infinitesimally small cost of living amongst civilization and civilized people.
You have an alternative...do your research. Forcing everyone to take a vaccine that's developed in months is a BAD idea for multiple reasons. You're easily going to have more dead people from the vaccine than from the actual virus you're trying to prevent.

I swear, some of you are the biggest brainless zombies I've ever seen.

People aren't against vaccines. People are against RUSHED vaccines that are forced where we don't even have time to question what's in it.

 
Old 05-19-2020, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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You have an alternative...do your research. Forcing everyone to take a vaccine that's developed in months is a BAD idea for multiple reasons. You're easily going to have more dead people from the vaccine than from the actual virus you're trying to prevent.

I swear, some of you are the biggest brainless zombies I've ever seen.

People aren't against vaccines. People are against RUSHED vaccines that are forced where we don't even have time to question what's in it.

I have never taken a pHARMaceutical drug until it's been on the market at least 15 years and has a proven record of safety. I learned this from the first doctor I ever worked for, way back in the 70's. Why in the world would I take a vaccine, which is a pHARMaceutical drug, mere months after its creation, with ZERO safety testing?
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I have never taken a pHARMaceutical drug until it's been on the market at least 15 years and has a proven record of safety. I learned this from the first doctor I ever worked for, way back in the 70's. Why in the world would I take a vaccine, which is a pHARMaceutical drug, mere months after its creation, with ZERO safety testing?
Safety testing is underway.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Safety testing is underway.
What, a year's worth? Did you not read my post. I need proven record of safety, and as far as I can see, there will never be adequate record of safety in vaccines. You and I have had this conversation, and if you continue to push your opinion, you will be beating a dead horse. I will never take vaccines, period. I thought you and I had this worked out long ago.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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I have never taken a pHARMaceutical drug until it's been on the market at least 15 years and has a proven record of safety. I learned this from the first doctor I ever worked for, way back in the 70's. Why in the world would I take a vaccine, which is a pHARMaceutical drug, mere months after its creation, with ZERO safety testing?
Exactly.

Especially for a virus that has a death rate as much as a common flu...we're not forced to get that one and on top of that, the flu vaccine has been around for decades and it still sucks, and has killed people.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:44 AM
 
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What, a year's worth? Did you not read my post. I need proven record of safety, and as far as I can see, there will never be adequate record of safety in vaccines. You and I have had this conversation, and if you continue to push your opinion, you will be beating a dead horse. I will never take vaccines, period. I thought you and I had this worked out long ago.
They are skipping animal trials for this fast tracked vaccine.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/11/...nimal-testing/
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That isn’t how vaccine testing normally happens. Regulators require that a manufacturer show a product is safe before it goes into people, and while it isn’t enshrined in law, researchers almost always check that a new concoction is effective in lab animals before putting human volunteers at potential risk.
Pretty sketchy.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Exactly.

Especially for a virus that has a death rate as much as a common flu...we're not forced to get that one and on top of that, the flu vaccine has been around for decades and it still sucks, and has killed people.

Amen sonny.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:59 AM
 
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You have an alternative...do your research. Forcing everyone to take a vaccine that's developed in months is a BAD idea for multiple reasons. You're easily going to have more dead people from the vaccine than from the actual virus you're trying to prevent.

I swear, some of you are the biggest brainless zombies I've ever seen.

People aren't against vaccines. People are against RUSHED vaccines that are forced where we don't even have time to question what's in it.
There wouldn't be an official death toll from the vaccine. Just like with other vaccines, the death will be attributed to something else. There have been cases of girls dying from the cervical cancer vaccine, for example, sometimes hours after the injection and they denied the vaccine had anything to do with it.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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There wouldn't be an official death toll from the vaccine. Just like with other vaccines, the death will be attributed to something else. There have been cases of girls dying from the cervical cancer vaccine, for example, sometimes hours after the injection and they denied the vaccine had anything to do with it.
Yep. People will just say, “correlation does not equal causation” and move on. It is really difficult to prove vaccine injuries and deaths. The system is set up in such a way that never admits fault, even if the victim receives compensation through the special vaccine court, also hard to do.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Yep. People will just say, “correlation does not equal causation” and move on. It is really difficult to prove vaccine injuries and deaths. The system is set up in such a way that never admits fault, even if the victim receives compensation through the special vaccine court, also hard to do.

Yes, if vaccines are perfectly safe, why are people being compensated for the damage they've done?
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