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Old 06-05-2020, 07:17 AM
 
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It looks like a return to the Wild West in Minneapolis. Every man for himself.
Well, except for their pesky “duty to retreat” laws. I wouldn’t want to live there right now.
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:18 AM
 
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I really liked my trips to Minneapolis. Watching a Twins game, walking downtown. Why do they want it to die?
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:19 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I am waiting to see if Lori Lightfoot signs on to this nonsense. She can't even control crime on the Chicago south side WITH police.
Great point.
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:19 AM
 
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Yes. Nancy Pelosi and other Dems live in exactly such private, gated enclaves. So do many of the Hollywood celebrities advocating defunding and abolishing police departments. They don't care what happens to the little people who are already victims of disproportionately high crime rates, i.e., Blacks and Hispanics.
I didn't word it properly, I should have said middle class people. Could I move to a private city and take the tax money I'm paying now along with other charges and would it work? No one get's in without approval and a back ground check and can be voted out if they slip up. Of course everyone would have to sign a waiver.
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:21 AM
 
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This would be my thinking too if I wasn't in fear of it affecting me tbh. As in, me as a law abiding citizen, not me as white or whatev. If this happens for real -abolish police forces- can you even imagine the wild behavior of criminal types? The law abiding working class black people who LIVE in the ghettos will be victims even more than they are now, do you think the criminals will just go after whites? No way.

I cannot believe this is really a thing...??
Authority won’t go away. It will just be the toughest, most violent strongman in each neighborhood who takes over and provides “security.”
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:26 AM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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Authority won’t go away. It will just be the toughest, most violent strongman in each neighborhood who takes over and provides “security.”
I dunno. Crime in bad sections be they white trash populated trailer parks or black populated ghettoes is already so bad, and no citizen security happening, I don't see it happening then. This is the first time in my life -I'm aged 56- I've actually been worried about society falling apart as in a true civil war, or worse, total anarchy.
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:29 AM
 
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I'm not advocating this, but to be fair, it sounds like the police would no longer be used for non-potentially violent situations for mental issues or drug dependencies but there would still be armed police of some sort.
The current model is more efficient in that you can call one number, one agency, and they can be the first on any type of scene which is highly unpredictable. The same people that talk people off the ledge are the same people who surround violent criminals, guns drawn.
Not an enviable job.
We live in a ridiculous, extremist society in which we can't seem to separate the two necessary modes used by the same patrol officer.
I want to like the idea on some level, but the randomness of what could happen in any given situation would prove to be too cumbersome to figure who to send out to what kind of call that comes in.
At that point, we might as well be policed by screaming out-of-work baristas holding up signs, which is what feels like is going on now.
And if a social worker is called out to a high-crime part of town? Will the police come with them anyway?
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I really liked my trips to Minneapolis. Watching a Twins game, walking downtown. Why do they want it to die?
Why would re-structuring the police force mean the city would die?

The mind of a Trump apologist is a mysterious and dark place......
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:31 AM
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapol...ice-department

"Social workers or medics could respond to situations once handled by police, she said."

Someone please explain to me how this will work?
They are not advocating replacing all police officers with social workers.

They are wanting to spend money on programs to try and remove the problems that end up in needing more policemen

It's not a bad idea and will require a nuanced approach to balancing immediate needs for law enforcement and not continually solving community problems with the band aid of more law enforcement.
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:34 AM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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They are not advocating replacing all police officers with social workers.

They are wanting to spend money on programs to try and remove the problems that end up in needing more policemen

It's not a bad idea and will require a nuanced approach to balancing immediate needs for law enforcement and not continually solving community problems with the band aid of more law enforcement.
If this is the case then awesome. Calling it "dismantling" is a misnomer then. It really would make total sense if they're not talking about abolishing police altogether.

I am totally in favor of police handling crime and social workers handling the non-criminal calls that police now handle. Though given how overburdened social workers now are, as we always are told when a child dies after CPS not doing their job, I doubt any city's ability to build an adequate work force of social workers to do this thankless, emotionally burdensome job.

Is that what they are actually intending to do, though? I feel dumb now.
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