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Old 06-05-2020, 11:46 AM
 
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The agenda of our friends on the left would make for some pretty solid comic book villain plots.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:48 AM
 
Location: London
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The police are still needed to respond to actual violence and looting, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to dispatch social workers to be available as needed during protests. They can not only help diffuse tension, they can serve as a sort of liaison that allows protesters to feel heard and seen by the government.

Having cops violently antagonizing even peaceful protesters, official journalists, and even uninvolved passersby is not working. It's only escalating the level of mutual anger and violence between cops and everyone else.

If it's not working, the logical step is to try something else.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:51 AM
 
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The police are still needed to respond to actual violence and looting, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to dispatch social workers to be available as needed during protests. They can not only help diffuse tension, they can serve as a sort of liaison that allows protesters to feel heard and seen by the government.

Having cops violently antagonizing even peaceful protesters, official journalists, and even uninvolved passersby is not working. It's only escalating the level of mutual anger and violence between cops and everyone else.
Maybe all those “peaceful” protesters shouldn’t violently antagonize police? How about actually being peaceful? It might work to make people agree with the cause.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:52 AM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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The police are still needed to respond to actual violence and looting, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to dispatch social workers to be available as needed during protests. They can not only help diffuse tension, they can serve as a sort of liaison that allows protesters to feel heard and seen by the government.
Where are they going to get all these social workers when it's a profession that is underpaid, overworked and overstressed, as we are all reminded when CPS fails in a battered child case? That's the main problem I see with it; it'd be impossible to staff the thing. Aren't we always told social workers' caseloads are already massive and unmanageable?
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:53 AM
 
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The agenda of our friends on the left would make for some pretty solid comic book villain plots.
True.

But this is a plot from a book.

The people in charge have a vested interest in carrying out the Biblical Apocalypse.

They are all heavily religious.

Which is obvious given the integral role of the Bible and Jewish Tanakh to the development of the West for 2,500 years.

Belief in it didn't just stop. It is a crafted illusion that it did.

The heroes and demons, of this put-on, are in the Book of the Apocalypse.

There are very easily decoded symbols that are used to represent people in that book.

I state all of that being non-religious.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Decent people of all races will flee the city cuz there'll be nothing but criminals controlling the streets. Much the way it's happening now with the lefty "leaders" there.
With the mass exodus from the big cities, the Leftys will inadvertently increase my home value down here in a suburb of Fort Lauderdale.

Plus... I'm a 1/2 mile from the beach, so if all the predictions from the Greens pan out - I'll even have beachfront property soon!!!

Aren't the Leftys great!?

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Old 06-05-2020, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Where are they going to get all these social workers when it's a profession that is underpaid, overworked and overstressed, as we are all reminded when CPS fails in a battered child case? That's the main problem I see with it; it'd be impossible to staff the thing. Aren't we always told social workers' caseloads are already massive and unmanageable?

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Old 06-05-2020, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Behind two gates and a nice wall
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapol...ice-department

"Social workers or medics could respond to situations once handled by police, she said."

Someone please explain to me how this will work?
Democrats of today are just complete dumbasses. Amazing how they cannot see their own HORRIBLE policies and cannot see that WE ALL SEE THEM AS THEY ARE NOW. Landslide win for Trump.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:58 AM
 
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In terms of responding to crime, cutting the police is not a good idea and in an emergency you do not want to be met by some community worker.

However improving mental health community teams and community support can have an impact in helping to stop people from oiffending due to mental illness, homelessness, drug and alcohol dependence etc.
I was just reading an article that I can't find which proposes something like the OP. Different 'classes' of officers. Traffic cops. Regular cops. Cops trained in mental health. etc. Right now everything is thrown at regular cops, who may or may not have the training, background, aptitude, or temperament to handle the situation. Obviously anything with potential for violence bring out the biggest, baddest dude, but many situations don't call for the Hulk to smash. I'm on board with that proposal.

Also, it might help with some of the issues cops have with depression and alcoholism. They see the worst in people every day in every way. Maybe if they had more specialized roles, they wouldn't get called upon as often for every single issue in society.
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Old 06-05-2020, 12:00 PM
 
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Where are they going to get all these social workers when it's a profession that is underpaid, overworked and overstressed, as we are all reminded when CPS fails in a battered child case? That's the main problem I see with it; it'd be impossible to staff the thing. Aren't we always told social workers' caseloads are already massive and unmanageable?
Doesn't necessarily have to be licensed social workers. Could be officers with slightly more medical training, or training on how to deal with ODs, etc.
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