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Old 06-15-2020, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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FAKE NEWS
Quite a convincing argument. LOL


Were you on a debate team.
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Old 06-15-2020, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Quite a convincing argument. LOL


Were you on a debate team.
Damn right! I don't rely on globalist propoganda published this past March to support your narrative.

No buying it from the ever lying control freak left.

Pound sand!
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Old 06-15-2020, 06:04 AM
 
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Complaining about protests that were not sponsored by the government while condoning rallies by the president in enclosed venues, not quite the same.



BS lies.

If you were honest, you would admit that the left/msm (can't tell a difference) criticized across the spectrum. De Blasio would arrest you if you were at the beach alone socially distancing, how dare the Michigan protestors demand that the state opens back up they are killing grandma, I can't believe so and so isn't wearing a mask - ruin them, etc...

These riots and looters are essentially state sponsored. Washington's governor pretended like he didn't know CHAZ existed and the Seattle mayor frames it as mellow hippies having a summer of love.


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I guess we should have just stopped the protests, that would have just been so easy.

The point is the anti-science position of the left. Screaming bloody murder about the spread of the virus over anything and then when it is their voters doing things that will spread the virus more we get crickets not even 1/100th of the verbal arguments about facts of virus spread. That is not science based. That is political expediency based.

P.S. The problem is that Democrat mayors and governors looked the other way with rioters and looters, because they didn't want to upset their own voters - so it got worse. The governor of Washington pretended that CHAZ didn't exist and the mayor lied through her teeth pretending it is the same as mellow hippies having a summer of love.
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Old 06-15-2020, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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BS lies.

If you were honest, you would admit that the left/msm (can't tell a difference) criticized across the spectrum. De Blasio would arrest you if you were at the beach alone socially distancing, how dare the Michigan protestors demand that the state opens back up they are killing grandma, I can't believe so and so isn't wearing a mask - ruin them, etc...

These riots and looters are essentially state sponsored. Washington's governor pretended like he didn't know CHAZ existed and the Seattle mayor frames it as mellow hippies having a summer of love.





The point is the anti-science position of the left. Screaming bloody murder about the spread of the virus over anything and then when it is their voters doing things that will spread the virus more we get crickets not even 1/100th of the verbal arguments about facts of virus spread. That is not science based. That is political expediency based.

P.S. The problem is that Democrat mayors and governors looked the other way with rioters and looters, because they didn't want to upset their own voters - so it got worse. The governor of Washington pretended that CHAZ didn't exist and the mayor lied through her teeth pretending it is the same as mellow hippies having a summer of love.
I believe in the health experts like Dr Fauci, how does that equate to anti-science, Trump should listen to his own experts. Science shouldn't be a left/right issue but here you have a president making it one.
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:07 AM
 
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Damn right! I don't rely on globalist propoganda published this past March to support your narrative.

No buying it from the ever lying control freak left.

Pound sand!
^^^


It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. – Mark Twain
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Anything i can do to spread this virus, i for sure will do it.
Once again, here is a prime illustration of what's wrong with America today.

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The problem is that many of these businesses that opened were in violation of the guidelines. Many groups of people gathering as if its time to celebrate the end of Covid-19. Both infections and hospitalizations are up in many places, all the experts warn this will be with us for over a year. Very foolish behavior.
My own organization is opening in two weeks, with very little concession to our state guidelines for reopening.

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When have healthy people been quarantined before in history?
Well, first of all, no healthy people have been quarantined. If you were quarantined, you wouldn't be able to leave your home.

Secondly, businesses, schools, etc. shut down during the 1918-19 pandemic. A simple Google search will tell you all you need to know about what worked and what didn't during that pandemic. Lessons we should have learned, but did not. There's a nice selection of articles about it here;

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997248/

And before you start squawking "fake news" again, the article in the direct link was published in 2007; the other articles linked on the page were published earlier.

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It is 100% unscientific to wring your hands over opening up early and over protests to open up early and then accept riots and looting
Who's "accepting" looting and riots? Talk about fake news ...

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These riots and looters are essentially state sponsored.
Got proof?
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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^^^


It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. – Mark Twain
"They don't think it be like it is, but it do." - Oscar Gamble

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Old 06-15-2020, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The protests are worrisome, no doubt, but from what I see in every shot on TV, the vast, vast majority of protesters are wearing masks. The cops are not, which seems weird. The protests are outdoors too, and what we have seen from beach opening, earlier protests (where most did not wear masks), and park openings, the virus does not spread efficiently in outdoor settings. But yeah, it only takes one to go to a restaurant or a bar after the march and infect a bunch of people.
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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I believe in the health experts like Dr Fauci, how does that equate to anti-science, Trump should listen to his own experts. Science shouldn't be a left/right issue but here you have a president making it one.
I am speaking about the left collectively. The left (which includes the msm) is extremely hypocritical in who they call out for violating social distancing norms.

They don't base it on science. They base it on politics.

If Trump is making science a left/right issue so are elected Democrats, the media, and others.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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They don't base it on science. They base it on politics.

If Trump is making science a left/right issue so are elected Democrats, the media, and others.
So maybe we should all of us stop. Set a shining example.
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