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Unless you have a paid subscription to SI mainly for the swimsuit issue, and you've been disappointed with this year's edition, I'm not sure what all the anger is about.
It is not "all women have periods". It is that NO MEN have periods.
Your definition of feminism that "people are not defined by their genitals" refers to ability, intelligence, or other qualities like that.
People absolutely 100% are defined by their genitals when it comes to GENDER.
XX chromosomes give a person "female" parts.
XY chromosomes give a person "male" parts.
The only exceptions are someone born with a chromosomal defect.
There are two choices except for those with birth defects. That is it. Two.
Removing parts of one's anatomy and adding other bits does not turn a man into a woman. He will still have greater upper body strength. He cannot bear a child. His voice is not that of a woman. He will have to take hormones.
If I put my cat in a dog costume, it will still be a cat.
These people are mentally ill. Perhaps it is a method of treatment to allow these people to identify as another gender. Maybe if they didn't they would be more likely to kill themselves, IDK. I have compassion for these people. It must not be easy.
However, to justify this as you are and pretend that it is normal and natural, by twisting logic and defing the laws nature, is completely absurd. The emperor has no clothes but you are one of the ones admiring his beautiful garments.
Actually some men do have periods depending on your definition of men, and your Karyotype definition means there are men who have periods.
The SRY gene determines primary sexual characteristics, that's why there are XX men and XY women. Some XY women do have periods, (shocker).
Your understanding of biology is critically flawed, the SRY gene is expressed as maleness, if its not expressed the default is expressed (typically female) but karyotype need not imply one form of genitals or the other, hence XX men (who are typically sterile) but can have fully functional penises, caused by a transcription of the SRY gene onto an X chromosome) and XY women who are also typically sterile but can have fully functional vaginas, and a uterus.
So yes transsexuals are as normal and natural as you or I, we're all products of the genetic monte carlo algorithm.
Then of course, we also have surgical alterations to consider, which can create male or female primary characteristics. If you want to quibble, then what's your position on breast augmentation and vaginal rejuvenation?
Saying someone born with a different karyotype than their genitals imply is a defect is dangerous ground. Its not that long ago that left handedness was considered a birth defect, hell this century being born a woman was considered a defect in certain cultures. When you start throwing around things like birth defect, it leads to a judgement of what's acceptable characteristics and traits, and what isn't. There be dragons down that path. Who decides what characteristics and traits are acceptable?
Your criteria are flawed, because clearly women who do not have kids, have passed menopause, have had hysterectomies, or are congenitally or surgically sterile, you would consider women. Unless you don't.
Therefore either all those women are not women, or your criteria are not complete.
The issue I have with your criteria is that it puts a 50Mt hydrogen bomb under 50 years of feminism, and pushes the detonator. The whole argument of feminism is that people are not defined by their genitals, yet, here you are throwing it under the bus.
No, the argument of feminism is that opportunity and civil rights should not be defined by ones genitals. Was never intended that male and female should be seen as socially constructed concepts, or that biological males should be able to invade womens spaces or compete against them in sports. Dont confuse modern, gender feminists with true feminists.
The people we call trangenders were done a horrible disservice with the creation of the unscientific myth that they had the mind of one sex trapped in the body of the other.
The scientific reality is that transgender women are just very effeminate gay males. Whos effeminate nature causes them to have an especially strong affinity for female culture and clothing and the things their culture associates with femaleness, much moreso than the normal gay male. This was unfortunately mistakenly interpreted as meaning they were really women in guys bodies and that they needed to embrace actual female identity in order for their tastes to be socially acceptable. In fact they should have been accepted for who they really were, to dress how they liked and even be referred to by the feminine pronouns, as a social courtesy, but without actually claiming that they were really girls in guys bodies. Or worse, that they were "misgendered" at birth and that biological sex doesnt really exist.
I support trans rights but they are being very poorly lead right now and more rational heads within that community need to take the reins back from the extremists
Did the poster say it should be banned? No. You're making things up.
It's obvious just the thought of banning the SI swimsuit edition set off a tantrum in you. You can stop crying - it's not going away, okay?
What are you talking about? I really don't care what weird stuff you look at. As I said before, knock yourself out. You seem to have a weird obsession though.
Chromosomes determine sex. Everything else is window dressing.
Transgenders have a high rate of suicide, probably because they realize that after all the pain, time and money spent to become someone they are not, they are still unhappy. Their problem is inside their head, not their genitals.
"Transgender individuals who received puberty blockers during adolescence have a lower risk of suicidal thoughts as adults than those who wanted the medication but could not access them, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Pediatrics.
“These results align with past literature, suggesting that pubertal suppression for transgender adolescents who want this treatment is associated with favorable mental health outcomes,” the study states.
The finding suggests that a major — and politically controversial — aspect of transgender health care for minors could help reduce the trans community’s disproportionate risk of suicide."
"Researchers interviewed transgender youths ages 15 to 21 and asked whether young people could use their chosen name at school, home, work and with friends. Compared with peers who could not use their chosen name in any context, young people who could use their name in all four areas experienced 71 percent fewer symptoms of severe depression, a 34 percent decrease in reported thoughts of suicide and a 65 percent decrease in suicidal attempts."
"Among trans Ontarians, 35.1 % (95 % CI: 27.6, 42.5) seriously considered, and 11.2 % (95 % CI: 6.0, 16.4) attempted, suicide in the past year. Social support, reduced transphobia, and having any personal identification documents changed to an appropriate sex designation were associated with large relative and absolute reductions in suicide risk, as was completing a medical transition through hormones and/or surgeries (when needed). Parental support for gender identity was associated with reduced ideation. Lower self-reported transphobia (10th versus 90th percentile) was associated with a 66 % reduction in ideation (RR = 0.34, 95 % CI: 0.17, 0.67), and an additional 76 % reduction in attempts among those with ideation (RR = 0.24; 95 % CI: 0.07, 0.82)."
"But among trans people who had undergone gender-affirming surgery, the longer ago their surgery, the less likely they were to suffer anxiety, depression or suicidal behavior during the study period, researchers reported in The American Journal of Psychiatry."
The scientific reality is that transgender women are just very effeminate gay males. Whos effeminate nature causes them to have an especially strong affinity for female culture and clothing and the things their culture associates with femaleness, much moreso than the normal gay male. This was unfortunately mistakenly interpreted as meaning they were really women in guys bodies and that they needed to embrace actual female identity in order for their tastes to be socially acceptable.
Your scientific source for this comment? Link, please.
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In fact they should have been accepted for who they really were, to dress how they liked and even be referred to by the feminine pronouns, as a social courtesy, but without actually claiming that they were really girls in guys bodies. Or worse, that they were "misgendered" at birth and that biological sex doesnt really exist.
I support trans rights but they are being very poorly lead right now and more rational heads within that community need to take the reins back from the extremists
Why not just provide them the courtesy of accepting who they see themselves as, period? Why does their feeling that their mental gender does not match their phenotypic sex bother you?
They should have picked one that looked less like a guy.
"I was born trans"
No you werent. Stop lying.
Ill say that he doesnt deserve to get his ass kicked for wanting to live as a woman. Violence against these people is wrong. However the left cannstop pretending there is more than two genders.
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