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Question for everyone, you remember when the Left would talk about right wingers like Eric Rudolph or the Unabomber? The Right would correctly point ot they they were not Republicans. They were too far to the right. I am sure the ones tearing down the statues are not Democrats (or Republicans.) They are far left and most of them are probably anarchists. They just want chaos and disorder which is a far cry from the majority of the actual protestors who just want change and equal rights.
That said, both parties have some extremists in their midst. To deny that would be lunacy. Joe Biden is neither an extremist nor an anarchist.
I also suspect anyone who really is about to #walklaway from the Democratic Party just needed one gentle push to do or or maybe they were never Democrat.
I don't hear many democrat mayors in the cities where this is happening denouncing them or acting to stop them.
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Well for starters, they are NOT just tearing down confederate statues.
But for the sake of argumement, let's say they were....
Why does a mob armed with chains, ropes and spraypaint get to decide for the REST OF US, which statues we are allowed to have or not?
We are a society of rules and of law. If you don't like it, petition to remove it. Vote on it. You don't go there and just tear it down because you decided we should not have it anymore.
Temper tantrums from the victims of bad parenting. Put them in timeout and definitely curtail their sugar intake.
I've voted democrat most of my life and I've spent the last 3.5 years being as disgusted with Trump as anyone. These last few months though have taken what seemed like background noise about the radical left and amplified it into a loud, blaring wake-up call. The left in America has completely lost it's mind. It consists of either far left radicals or people who may be center left but apologize or enable far left radicals.
One of the new catchphrases we've been hearing is "Silence is Violence". This is meant to suggest that if you are silent on racism, you are complicit in the violence it causes. The irony of that statement is so ridiculous that it serves as a perfect example of the current leftist insanity!
- Someone who is silent or not vocal enough in denouncing racism is complicit in violence committed by others.
- Meanwhile, people who are LITERALLY engaging in REAL violence, burning cities, attacking and killing people, occupying parts of cities, etc are apologized for and enabled. Their bail is paid for and they are not held to account by the left for their actions.
So in the left's view. If I stay home, pay my taxes, follow the law, act like a responsible citizen and decline to participate in BLM protests or activism, I am more evil and contemptible than someone who is out burning cities, tearing down public statues and assaulting or killing people! Can you see why this is no longer my party?
However, that is not the reason why I brought up "Silence is Violence". I brought it up to turn it around and aim it back at the left. Your silence on what is happening to YOUR party makes YOU complicit as well.
I'm done with the left! I can't vote for Trump but I won't vote Dem either. Actually, as bad as I thought Trump was, the left in the last few months has horrified my more than the 3.5 years we've just suffered through. I never thought the term "defund or abolish" the police would be taken seriously. I never thought I'd see my own countrymen tearing down our statues and defacing our history. I never thought freedom of speech and ideas would erode to the point that it has in our media and universities.
The left champions itself as the party of science yet it will immediately silence and denounce any scientist that might contradict some of the left's sacred cows.
- We've seen it for decades now with climate change where any non-alarmist scientist is shunned and silenced.
- We see it with gender, where DNA no longer determines if you are male or female, your FEELINGS do!
- We see it with statistics on police arrests that show that racism is not the systemic problem it is being made out to be.
- We see it with Covid-19 and denigrating the effictiveness of Hydroxychlorquine simply to spite Trump who had advocated for it.
- We see it with people saying with a straight face, that mass protests and rioting are not a concern for spreading covid after we've just been told mass gatherings were bad and we could not see loved ones in their final moments in the hospital. We could not hold proper funerals but George Floyd had about THREE of them that were fit for a head of state!
Then we have the insanity of Cancel Culture, where you can have your life ruined by something you said 15 years ago.
This is a world where we have leftist professors in our universities saying the most racist, sexist things you can imagine with no shame or apology but if you tweet "blue lives matter" or simply say you approve of the duly elected president of United States as the CEO of Goya did, you deserve to be cancelled, boycotted and shamed.
This is a world where a children's cartoon like Paw Patrol is cancelled as offensive or triggering but the most vile gangster rap is condoned and celebrated.
This is a world where it's absolutely acceptable to be racist as long as it's towards white people. We call unpleasant white women "Karens" without any sense of shame or irony! Can you imagine if we had a represenative African American name for unpleasant black women? Can you imagine the media running article after article about the latest example of a "Shanice" behaving badly?
Can you imagine a bestselling book called Black fragilty or Asian fragility?
Can you imagine workshops to reduce your blackness?
It seems like the radical left wants to tear down the system. What do they plan on replacing it with? We had the opportunity to see this in action with CHOP/CHAZ and it ended as badly as you would expect. We are supposed to want to try this on a national level?
Our system is not perfect and it can be improved but tearing it all down and expecting whatever is cobbled together in place of it to work BETTER is just shear insanity that any thinking, rational adult should reject immediately.
"I can't vote for Trump but I can't vote Dem either." This is where you lose me. Trump, like him or not, is the only thing standing between the left, who you loath and who want to tear this country apart, including you, if you aren't on board with their agenda. The democrats are funding these thugs who want to destroy what made this country great and install their Utopian dream which is really a dystopian hell. So what is the point of not voting? So you can say, well Biden won but I didn't vote for him and I couldn't vote for Trump because that would be uncool? How do you square that circle?
Well for starters, they are NOT just tearing down confederate statues.
But for the sake of argumement, let's say they were....
Why does a mob armed with chains, ropes and spraypaint get to decide for the REST OF US, which statues we are allowed to have or not?
We are a society of rules and of law. If you don't like it, petition to remove it. Vote on it. You don't go there and just tear it down because you decided we should not have it anymore.
You do realize, Mr. Totally A Real Democrat, that those statues weren't exactly put up by popular vote, right? I don't seem to remember the Right having any issue when Iraqis tore down that statue of Saddam. I also find it strange how you all are far more concerned with the safety of inanimate objects honoring slave owners and murderers than you do in wanting police to not murder random citizens for minor or no offenses at all.
You do realize, Mr. Totally A Real Democrat, that those statues weren't exactly put up by popular vote, right? I don't seem to remember the Right having any issue when Iraqis tore down that statue of Saddam. I also find it strange how you all are far more concerned with the safety of inanimate objects honoring slave owners and murderers than you do in wanting police to not murder random citizens for minor or no offenses at all.
So Frederick Douglas, the Virgin Mary, Catholic Priests and Abe Lincoln are "slave owners and murderers?"
Do you not read the thread and just post the same thing mindlessly? As the OP said, the left has lost its mind.
It's like those infomercials with terrible acting recommending a product.
The first reply that agreed with him looked at the camera with some poorly acted monologue "I was once a democrat, but thanks RedPill I have become even more uninformed and misled than ever before! Thanks Mr. Trump!"...
So what in the original posting demonstrates that this person is uninformed and misled?
I've voted democrat most of my life and I've spent the last 3.5 years being as disgusted with Trump as anyone. These last few months though have taken what seemed like background noise about the radical left and amplified it into a loud, blaring wake-up call. The left in America has completely lost it's mind. It consists of either far left radicals or people who may be center left but apologize or enable far left radicals.
One of the new catchphrases we've been hearing is "Silence is Violence". This is meant to suggest that if you are silent on racism, you are complicit in the violence it causes. The irony of that statement is so ridiculous that it serves as a perfect example of the current leftist insanity!
- Someone who is silent or not vocal enough in denouncing racism is complicit in violence committed by others.
- Meanwhile, people who are LITERALLY engaging in REAL violence, burning cities, attacking and killing people, occupying parts of cities, etc are apologized for and enabled. Their bail is paid for and they are not held to account by the left for their actions.
So in the left's view. If I stay home, pay my taxes, follow the law, act like a responsible citizen and decline to participate in BLM protests or activism, I am more evil and contemptible than someone who is out burning cities, tearing down public statues and assaulting or killing people! Can you see why this is no longer my party?
However, that is not the reason why I brought up "Silence is Violence". I brought it up to turn it around and aim it back at the left. Your silence on what is happening to YOUR party makes YOU complicit as well.
I'm done with the left! I can't vote for Trump but I won't vote Dem either. Actually, as bad as I thought Trump was, the left in the last few months has horrified my more than the 3.5 years we've just suffered through. I never thought the term "defund or abolish" the police would be taken seriously. I never thought I'd see my own countrymen tearing down our statues and defacing our history. I never thought freedom of speech and ideas would erode to the point that it has in our media and universities.
The left champions itself as the party of science yet it will immediately silence and denounce any scientist that might contradict some of the left's sacred cows.
- We've seen it for decades now with climate change where any non-alarmist scientist is shunned and silenced.
- We see it with gender, where DNA no longer determines if you are male or female, your FEELINGS do!
- We see it with statistics on police arrests that show that racism is not the systemic problem it is being made out to be.
- We see it with Covid-19 and denigrating the effictiveness of Hydroxychlorquine simply to spite Trump who had advocated for it.
- We see it with people saying with a straight face, that mass protests and rioting are not a concern for spreading covid after we've just been told mass gatherings were bad and we could not see loved ones in their final moments in the hospital. We could not hold proper funerals but George Floyd had about THREE of them that were fit for a head of state!
Then we have the insanity of Cancel Culture, where you can have your life ruined by something you said 15 years ago.
This is a world where we have leftist professors in our universities saying the most racist, sexist things you can imagine with no shame or apology but if you tweet "blue lives matter" or simply say you approve of the duly elected president of United States as the CEO of Goya did, you deserve to be cancelled, boycotted and shamed.
This is a world where a children's cartoon like Paw Patrol is cancelled as offensive or triggering but the most vile gangster rap is condoned and celebrated.
This is a world where it's absolutely acceptable to be racist as long as it's towards white people. We call unpleasant white women "Karens" without any sense of shame or irony! Can you imagine if we had a represenative African American name for unpleasant black women? Can you imagine the media running article after article about the latest example of a "Shanice" behaving badly?
Can you imagine a bestselling book called Black fragilty or Asian fragility?
Can you imagine workshops to reduce your blackness?
It seems like the radical left wants to tear down the system. What do they plan on replacing it with? We had the opportunity to see this in action with CHOP/CHAZ and it ended as badly as you would expect. We are supposed to want to try this on a national level?
Our system is not perfect and it can be improved but tearing it all down and expecting whatever is cobbled together in place of it to work BETTER is just shear insanity that any thinking, rational adult should reject immediately.
welcome to right side - it takes times for some too figure out these things due to the hate they have without rational thought - the left and especially the likes of biden have had 45 years to make the changes they ***** about everyday and its the same ol same ol - trump at least is trying to drain the swap and make real changes that will effect out lives like reducing taxes, removing restrictions on businesses, stopping the insane spending on illegals in this country and many others - welcome again
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