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The data in the census is used for government programs, funding, policies, and all manner of decision-making. Their numbers shouldn't be used for any of those purposes.
Stop comparing illegal immigrants to slaves! Illegal immigrants are victims of nothing!
They aren't "undocumented" as in the topic title either. They are illegal aliens and you are correct in everything you stated. My question is how does the census determine who is here illegally and who is not?
you do realize the amount of representatives a state has equals more power in Washington and the ability to make Policy. Is basic civic knowledge so lacking today.
From the 14th amendment: “Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State...”
The whole number of persons, not the number of voters, not the number of voting men, not the number of adults with graduate-level education, not the number of non-felons, or whatever modifier to whole persons any Stephen Miller wing nut wants to dream up. Trump has already lost the citizenship question in Court because he is entirely incapable of understanding the US Constitution, and it is no surprise that he is at this again. But is no one in his administration educated enough to provide him with good counsel?
The data in the census is used for government programs, funding, policies, and all manner of decision-making. Their numbers shouldn't be used for any of those purposes.
Stop comparing illegal immigrants to slaves! Illegal immigrants are victims of nothing!
And let us all stop using the term illegal immigrant The correct term is illegal alien. Immigration is a LEGAL process, there is no way to illegally immigrate.
Moreover these people knowingly and willing broke the law, they are criminals and are not immigrating they are invading.
A better term is: criminal illegal alien invader, which appropriately describes these despicable vermin.
From the 14th amendment: “Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State...”
The whole number of persons, not the number of voters, not the number of voting men, not the number of adults with graduate-level education, not the number of non-felons, or whatever modifier to whole persons any Stephen Miller wing nut wants to dream up. Trump has already lost the citizenship question in Court because he is entirely incapable of understanding the US Constitution, and it is no surprise that he is at this again. But is no one in his administration educated enough to provide him with good counsel?
Is basic civic knowledge so lacking today?
you left out something:
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
Well I didn’t think that specific clause was germane to the discussion. Does it say excluding undocumented immigrants? Or are you implying undocumented persons now have Native American status?
Well I didn’t think that specific clause was germane to the discussion. Does it say excluding undocumented immigrants? Or are you implying undocumented persons now have Native American status?
it's not a stretch to understand the original intent here.
Well I didn’t think that specific clause was germane to the discussion. Does it say excluding undocumented immigrants? Or are you implying undocumented persons now have Native American status?
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you left out something:
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
Yes, that poster did leave something out...
Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
From the 14th amendment: “Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State...”
The whole number of persons, not the number of voters, not the number of voting men, not the number of adults with graduate-level education, not the number of non-felons, or whatever modifier to whole persons any Stephen Miller wing nut wants to dream up. Trump has already lost the citizenship question in Court because he is entirely incapable of understanding the US Constitution, and it is no surprise that he is at this again. But is no one in his administration educated enough to provide him with good counsel?
Is basic civic knowledge so lacking today?
Except that is not what the memorandum is about.
The following quote from the actual memorandum that cuts to the heart of the matter (I suggest reading the entire thing for full context, but pulling out this sentence out of context does no harm, as in effect this is the central argument that is advanced by the administration, right or wrong).
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The discretion delegated to the executive branch to determine who qualifies as an “inhabitant” includes authority to exclude from the apportionment base aliens who are not in a lawful immigration status.
The other thing to grasp is, this is both a purposeful use of Executive power but also a troll against Roberts. Trump issued this as a memorandum and not an Executive Order purposefully, because the Roberts just found in the DACA case that even unconstitutional orders could not be rescinded without following the procedures of the Administrative Procedures Act. In other words the Trump administration is leveraging the horrendous DACA decision to their advantage. If the Dems gain control they can unwind the memorandum, but not without pain.
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